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Old 06-11-2013, 11:43 PM   #16
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2012 on have different lower legs,less axle offset and different compression adjusters.
I assume you were referring ^^ to the 690's ?

Same lenght tubes = surprising to me since the KTM
manuals list such different fork and spring lengths
for the EXc's and 690's...

Not that I know that because I have been trying
to find a longer travel fork for my 690...

Err.... very.... much....

Will these new kits will fit the 2012-2013 690's ?
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:57 AM   #17
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I assume you were referring ^^ to the 690's ?

Same lenght tubes = surprising to me since the KTM
manuals list such different fork and spring lengths
for the EXc's and 690's...

Not that I know that because I have been trying
to find a longer travel fork for my 690...

Err.... very.... much....

Will these new kits will fit the 2012-2013 690's ?
That's what KTMMitch has been saying, they are building new custom parts to extend the 2012/13 690 forks up to 300mm.

On the older forks it's easy because you can just swap in EXC internals.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:48 AM   #18
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Re-springing both ends of this bike is near $400 before you even consider taming down the valving.

If you managed to buy new springs all around & pay someone to re-valve the front & install the works for 500$ OTD you got yourself one great deal!


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Not if you find a good suspension shop that doesn't feel the need to rape you.
Revalve forks, and shock, respring shock (fork springs are way stiff enough for most riders), cost me less then $500 from SMS Racing.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:17 AM   #19
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The inner & outer tubes are definitely the same on all 690's & same as EXC
Good info - must mean a lot of overlap in the
690's - likely cross-compatibility saves on parts
and development as well

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The tricky bit is getting the new damper rod to work with both the old EXC-type 690 fork,and the 2012-on 690 fork,which has a different lower fixing.But between us & tractive(we are dealing with the ex-WP guy who designed the 48mm WP fork!!) we seem to have come up with a kit that will work with both types.
Nice to work with guys who know the details !!

Looking forward to trying these out - and glad
they will work with the older and newer 690's

Great work !!
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:47 AM   #20
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Superplush rear shock and upgraded collar

Just received my new upgraded Superplush springs and rear shock collar.
I didn't take photos of the fork springs.







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Old 07-01-2013, 04:56 AM   #21
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Re-springing both ends of this bike is near $400 before you even consider taming down the valving.

If you managed to buy new springs all around & pay someone to re-valve the front & install the works for 500$ OTD you got yourself one great deal!

$400 for springs They only cost $200 down here. Even with my fat ass though I didn't need to respring the front. Re-valving front and back was $200
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Old 07-01-2013, 07:49 AM   #22
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$400 for springs They only cost $200 down here.
Springs cost about $150 for the forks and about the same for the shock. Not sure if your $200 price is for both ends or just one end?

The upgraded collar is not cheap but the OEM shock collar will most likely break with the heavier spring and then you've got to replace the whole shock. It's also a custom designed piece for the OEM shock, so it's not something that you can buy off the shelf from WP. Only SuperPlush and Rally Raid UK make upgraded shock collars afaik.
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:41 AM   #23
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Springs cost about $150 for the forks and about the same for the shock. Not sure if your $200 price is for both ends or just one end?

The upgraded collar is not cheap but the OEM shock collar will most likely break with the heavier spring and then you've got to replace the whole shock. It's also a custom designed piece for the OEM shock, so it's not something that you can buy off the shelf from WP. Only SuperPlush and Rally Raid UK make upgraded shock collars afaik.
That's BOTH, hell Racetech springs are like a $115 for the front and $115 for the rear and that's full MSRP direct from them. My cost was $99 for the shock spring.

I've had my OEM shock collar with the heavy spring running on 6 years and probably 25K miles now and it still hasn't broken.
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:36 AM   #24
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gen: I see that you went with a 100nm rear spring, how much do you weigh?
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Old 07-01-2013, 10:00 AM   #25
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gen: I see that you went with a 100nm rear spring, how much do you weigh?
125 kgs; it's what Sean at Superplush recommended.
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:34 PM   #26
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I want to change my front fork caps to the adjustable pre-load caps. Do I need to alter the 472mm spring length when I install the adjustable caps?
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:56 PM   #27
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The bikes sag is about 1/2" and I am 240lbs so when I sit on the bike it sags maybe another 1/2" Is this typical? I'm guessing I need to loosen up the spring?
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:44 PM   #28
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I want to change my front fork caps to the adjustable pre-load caps. Do I need to alter the 472mm spring length when I install the adjustable caps?
No need to cut the springs, but the caps will add a few mm of preload even when they are backed all the way out... they are only intended to add preload to the stock setting, they cannot lessen it. FYI: 1" PVC pipe can be cut into any size you'd like and placed between the stock caps and springs to add preload, though if you think you'll have the need/want to regularly adjust preload, the caps are clearly the better option.
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Old 09-16-2013, 11:17 AM   #29
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Old 09-16-2013, 11:46 AM   #30
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Any way to modify existing shock?
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