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Old 07-01-2013, 10:26 PM   #301
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Pedrosa seemed psychologically defeated.
He was supposed to win the 2 previous races, but didn't.
The guy leading the championship is now all of a sudden “psychologically defeated”???

Id say the trick is to push very hard, but stay on two wheels. That latter is more important than the number of race wins per year, and especially when you know there will be many tracks coming up, where youll have a good chance to win. Sure Assen turned out to be a disappointing weekend for DP, but its far from a catastrophe. As long as he keeps doing what he is doing, he will have a very good chance to lift the title. And remember that last year his later part of the season was even stronger than first part.

BTW, Assen is not one of the tracks where Pedrosa has been very strong in the past, either.
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Old 07-01-2013, 10:40 PM   #302
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Pedrosa seemed psychologically defeated.
He was supposed to win the 2 previous races, but didn't.
He blew off a chance to improve his Qualifying time here.
He didn't look hungry for a win. MM was faster. Rossi and Crutchlow were faster. He damn near got beat by the one-armed man.
Perhaps if he was transfused with a pint of blood from Hector he could
get more fired up.
And you base that on a picture that was posted of him looking tired after the race?


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Old 07-01-2013, 10:51 PM   #303
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Again?

Point is, a lot of people wrote off Pedrosa after the first round, and instead of learning the lesson that one mediocre result does not a disaster make, another 4th place has brought out a few doomsayers. My advice is to be consistent, don't wait for a mediocre result -- when/if he wins Sachsenring, keep saying he won't win, it should be good for a laugh.
You're ignoring his 7 previous seasons on a Repsol Honda and not winning the WC while 2 of his teammates did. Now this year his green pea teammate is showing him the back wheel more and more, and it's early yet, not to mention The Doctor finding his form again.

He started out with the best chance, and frankly he's looking like 3rd place now, then add in his past history.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:01 PM   #304
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maybe DP can console himself with the fact that his green pea teammate is showing everybody the back wheel more and more.
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:47 AM   #305
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Pedrosa reminds me of riders like Martinez, Gresini, Raudies or Alzamora. Small guys that spent their successful careers with small displacement bikes (Nieto was a dominator in these classes but I have never seen him, I'm too young ). I keep thinking that if he was allowed to stay in a small/middle GP class championship in the past 7 years he would have collected a lot more than he did in MotoGp.
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Old 07-02-2013, 03:48 AM   #306
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Pedrosa freaked out??? forget it. The guy only started showing emotions 2 years ago, so if anyone can read phsycological burnout off of his face then they should go and work for border control at JFK and catch smugglers. He is in it to win it, his best chance ever but the field is tougher and closer together.

Rossi, yep, I think he has found what he was looking for. He will be after a win here and there but totally happy to be able to fight for a podium.

Lorenzo, now here is the man with stainless steel cojones which pull sparks dragging behind him when he walks down the pits. Probably overcome something which he previously deemed impossible. He will be supercharged.

MM, I dont even think he understands what is possible, he just seems to be enjoying racing, a young puppy on the podium, like he was chatting to his school mates after racing scooters. No pressure and major major skills.

CC, a man on a mission, a mission to prove he is amongst the best, i sense that he feels he has to prove that, just rough around the edges, once he loses some respect for the other four he will scrape fairings.

What a year it is turning out to be.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:42 AM   #307
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Point is, a lot of people wrote off Pedrosa after the first round, and instead of learning the lesson that one mediocre result does not a disaster make, another 4th place has brought out a few doomsayers. My advice is to be consistent, don't wait for a mediocre result -- when/if he wins Sachsenring, keep saying he won't win, it should be good for a laugh.
Point is, a lot of people keep saying: he won 6 races out of 8 last season... ( there was 18 races last season )

06
07
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012 No WC on a FACTORY HONDA.

6 out of 8 on a 18 race season does not wipe off his years of poor results.

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Old 07-02-2013, 04:49 AM   #308
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Pedrosa seemed psychologically defeated.
He was supposed to win the 2 previous races, but didn't.
He blew off a chance to improve his Qualifying time here.
He didn't look hungry for a win. MM was faster. Rossi and Crutchlow were faster. He damn near got beat by the one-armed man.
Perhaps if he was transfused with a pint of blood from Hector he could
get more fired up.
He's not defeated. He's got a set-up problem. He's fast until he's not. You can see his bike losing grip after the half. They all lose a little pace, but he drops of pretty fast in the middle. He has a hard time even holding his lines near the end. Maybe he has to modify his style a little to get more life out of that back tire.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:53 AM   #309
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He's not defeated. He's got a set-up problem. He's fast until he's not. You can see his bike losing grip after the half. They all lose a little pace, but he drops of pretty fast in the middle. He has a hard time even holding his lines near the end. Maybe he has to modify his style a little to get more life out of that back tire.
He's allways been like that, fading by mid race.
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He's allways been like that, fading by mid race.
I wouldn't quite say fading, but in his wins he does open up a good lead early, then manage it from there.

When guys like VR and CC can keep it close, those two know how to race, not just ride fast. I don't see Dani in that same light. Jorge can, but it's learned, not instinctual, if you can get what I mean. Marc can scrap pretty good too, but that's where the mayhem comes in.

His 'youthful exuberance' (fancy words for young and stoopit with a boner) can cause a real shake up. You can, with out hardly effort, see Marc bowling 99 and 26 into the kitty litter. Imagine the points shift if CC won with 46 on his tail in that race...
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:54 AM   #311
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Any racer have growning up & racing in spain and getting into Moto GP has racing instincts. Full stop.

Yes they have distinctive styles, some would rather not invade others personal space but that doesnt mean they wont when they have to. The more and more they swap paint the less hesitation you will see.

Beauty in motion a clean race jump to a lead and manage that lead means you dont have to swap paint. Thats for some the racers thats the perfect race. For others it needs to be strewn with battles. You need to be able to do both. You didnt see Rossi back off and think "mmm lets have another battle with MM"
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:57 AM   #312
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Stoner was injured while Dani was cleaning up last year. This is not a slam of him at all. Just pointing it out.
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:15 AM   #313
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Stoner was injured while Dani was cleaning up last year. This is not a slam of him at all. Just pointing it out.
He was the only one who could have taken points off them both. So, three guys for the podiums.

This year, there are five good bets for the podium slots. That really can change things.

Stoner said he liked good racing? He should have stuck around.
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:18 AM   #314
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Stoner was injured while Dani was cleaning up last year. This is not a slam of him at all. Just pointing it out.
Just like how Dani rode injured for the first two races of Stoner's championship year and then missed 3 (I think) more races.
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:44 AM   #315
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He was the only one who could have taken points off them both. So, three guys for the podiums.

This year, there are five good bets for the podium slots. That really can change things.

Stoner said he liked good racing? He should have stuck around.
Yeah, Stoner in the mix would have been great. Not that what is going on now is not fantastic.......


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