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Old 07-03-2013, 10:35 AM   #331
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Also, pain isn't the issue, all motorcycle racers can deal with pain. The problem is strength. At Mugello, Spies said it was plain dangerous for him to ride, as he couldn't control the bike in the fast changes of direction. He didn't have the necessary strength in his shoulder. That would have endangered himself and other riders on the track. Spies may be many things, but he's no pussy.

If anyone remembers back to Daytona when he went down on the banking and removed like a 1/4 of his ass, and had 2nd and 3rd degree burns.

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Old 07-03-2013, 11:14 AM   #332
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If anyone remembers back to Daytona when he went down on the banking and removed like a 1/4 of his ass, and had 2nd and 3rd degree burns.

http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/2007..._all_grown_up/
I bring that up when people say Spies hasn't paid his dues. Also, remember when he raced tore his stitches racing the Yosh Superbike at Mid-Ohio immediately after an appendectomy. Spies is plenty tough.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:36 AM   #333
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that's what separates the great ones from the rest of us. I think it comes down to desire and it's ability to override every other emotion.
It is the difference between being paid millions to do something and being a weekend warrior who goes into debt paying his own way.

How many chances are you going to get to fight for a World Championship? Better to make the most of it if you can.

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Regarding Dani; I see him finishing fourth when that is the best finish he can get as the sign that he truly is WC material (not that it was ever in doubt for me).

I don't hope or will any particular rider to win. I am more interested to see how it plays out. We are witnessing a great season.

The last few seasons were great too. Too many people hated to see Stoner as part of it and Rossi neutralized. Too bad for them.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:52 AM   #334
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Regarding Dani; I see him finishing fourth when that is the best finish he can get as the sign that he truly is WC material (not that it was ever in doubt for me).

I don't hope or will any particular rider to win. I am more interested to see how it plays out. We are witnessing a great season.

The last few seasons were great too. Too many people hated to see Stoner as part of it and Rossi neutralized. Too bad for them.
I couldn't agree more.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:57 AM   #335
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It is the difference between being paid millions to do something and being a weekend warrior who goes into debt paying his own way.

How many chances are you going to get to fight for a World Championship? Better to make the most of it if you can.

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Regarding Dani; I see him finishing fourth when that is the best finish he can get as the sign that he truly is WC material (not that it was ever in doubt for me).

I don't hope or will any particular rider to win. I am more interested to see how it plays out. We are witnessing a great season.

The last few seasons were great too. Too many people hated to see Stoner as part of it and Rossi neutralized. Too bad for them.
I'm not sure how much money is the motivator vs the chance to show that you're the best. If you're the best at something there's a chance that money will follow. No matter how much money you pay some one it won't make them the best.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:26 PM   #336
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I'm not sure how much money is the motivator vs the chance to show that you're the best. If you're the best at something there's a chance that money will follow. No matter how much money you pay some one it won't make them the best.
I am saying it is the difference in why our wounded warriors are healing up on the couch and not going out racing and risking further injury.

Whether it means the shot at more World Champion trophies or millions in bonuses or to add to your legacy as a great champion; I don't think any of us posting in this thread are in that unique and enviable position.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:51 PM   #337
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I am saying it is the difference in why our wounded warriors are healing up on the couch and not going out racing and risking further injury.

Whether it means the shot at more World Champion trophies or millions in bonuses or to add to your legacy as a great champion; I don't think any of us posting in this thread are in that unique and enviable position.
Your example is pretty messed up and insulting but I don't think you meant it that way.

No I'm not a world champion at anything but I do know that the pride and recognition I get from doing my best at my job is more important than any monetary compensation I could get. Not saying I'd work for free but then again, there are GP racers that do.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:58 PM   #338
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Your example is pretty messed up and insulting but I don't think you meant it that way.

No I'm not a world champion at anything but I do know that the pride and recognition I get from doing my best at my job is more important than any monetary compensation I could get. Not saying I'd work for free but then again, there are GP racers that do.
That's exactly what I am saying; if you are good at your job and it is a competitive and rewarding job, you are going to do what ever you can to get back to it ASAP.
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:34 PM   #339
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That's exactly what I am saying; if you are good at your job and it is a competitive and rewarding job, you are going to do what ever you can to get back to it ASAP.
My mistake then. I thought you were saying that it was because JLo made millions.
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:04 PM   #340
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It's disappointing Spies won't be healed in time for Laguna Seca.

I'm really looking forward to Spies return. His greatness is masked behind a wall of misfortune. When that wall comes down, watch out. He's hungry!

Perhaps a podium this season is a dream too far, but wouldn't that be something to cheer about!
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:15 PM   #341
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It's disappointing Spies won't be healed in time for Laguna Seca.

I'm really looking forward to Spies return. His greatness is masked behind a wall of misfortune. When that wall comes down, watch out. He's hungry!

Perhaps a podium this season is a dream too far, but wouldn't that be something to cheer about!
That would be amazing...but even if he gets past his previous bad luck, he isnt riding the most competative bike. Get past that....well, just look at Dovi and Nicky.
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:29 PM   #342
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Spies? podium?? you better call Bautista and tell him to get busy taking people out! I've always been a spies fan, but I think his time in motogp is done. if he couldn't do it on the factory Yamaha, he's not going to do it. yes, he had some bad luck, but in between the bad luck, he also had lackluster performances. he seemed to do better on the tech 3 bike, which makes me wonder, would crutchlow be better on the factory bike? or better staying where he's at??
I don't think Lorenzo needs the money, pretty sure he's already financially set for a good long time, like I said, desire to be the best, and the fact he doesn't have to report to work at 7am Monday morning and pound nails!
I agree, it's a great season so far, hope it continues!!
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:43 PM   #343
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Spies has no real set up right now for the bike. The bike itself is junk. He has done very well at Indy every year so maybe he will do ok.

Maybe one of his team mates will give him set up data.
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Old 07-03-2013, 05:01 PM   #344
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Old 07-03-2013, 05:21 PM   #345
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Perhaps a podium this season is a dream too far, but wouldn't that be something to cheer about!
A realistic goal might be beating Pol and/or getting into QP 2 occasionally.
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