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Old 12-20-2012, 07:54 PM   #511
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You say better but is it easier or more challenging? Just checking.
Hopefully the latter.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:52 PM   #512
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Countdown has posted an alternate route thru New Mexico in his library on GPSXchange. IMO his modified route is much better than the classic route especially the Chloride Creek segment.
First it follows the divide as close as is possible. It crosses the divide over 40 times in NM.

In many places it is not Adv Bike friendly, I did it on a Dual Sport bike. I remember one very rocky road going to gas in Winston. I also found gas north of pie town while following the divide instead of the classic route. There is a mini White Rim trail just north of Thoreau

If you want a much better ride, the GWT in AZ & UT is great.
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Old 12-24-2012, 08:14 AM   #513
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You say better but is it easier or more challenging? Just checking.
Well the Chloride Creek segment is more challenging and just to the point of being lots of fun. There is no problem riding it on a KLR. And I was on one ride where a guy and his wife rode it two-up on a KTM 950 and were right on my tail when I was on my KTM 450. Nothing very hard but lots of rocky creek crossings on the east end.

Plus this segment gets you to a neat gas station in Winston. I haven't studied them closely but at first glance it looks like the other segments in Countdown's alternate are pretty similar to the classic route in terms of difficulty.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:08 PM   #514
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Well the Chloride Creek segment is more challenging and just to the point of being lots of fun. There is no problem riding it on a KLR. And I was on one ride where a guy and his wife rode it two-up on a KTM 950 and were right on my tail when I was on my KTM 450. Nothing very hard but lots of rocky creek crossings on the east end..
Didn't know the name but that was the hardest section I remembered.

There was another much more fun section than classic route starting north at Hwy 12 on way to Pie town.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:11 PM   #515
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2013 Ride the Divide

My wife and I leave the Texas coast to do the ride this Sunday, the 30th. Our gear is packed and we will follow Big Dogs route. It is predicted to hit triple digits as we cross TX. If I can, I will post updates as we ride or we will see you on the trail.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:19 PM   #516
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What's happening in Colorado?

I'm curious if the CDR section has been closed around Del Norte, Salida, etc., because of all the wild fires. Colorado, in general, is having a really bad fire season this year.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:35 PM   #517
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I'm curious if the CDR section has been closed around Del Norte, Salida, etc., because of all the wild fires. Colorado, in general, is having a really bad fire season this year.
info here: http://www.inciweb.org/incident/3436/

My crew will be rolling CDR to TAT from the north about 2.5 weeks from now...
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:46 AM   #518
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Right now lots of New Mexico forests are closed. The Carson is still open I think, but the Santa Fe and Cibola are closed where the CDR runs. I don't know about the Gila, but there is a big fire near where the CDR runs.

We usually start getting rain in early July and they might open up in a few weeks but surely not until after the 4th of July danger.

Or they might not. Our drought is severe. Temps have been well into the 90s even at 8-9k elevations.
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:13 AM   #519
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Question Starting CDR N-S around 7/14

We're hitting the CDR N-S in about 10 days. I know about the fire near Del Norte that will probably block that section. Are the NM forest closures due to active fires or just high fire danger?
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The section between Cuba, NM and Abiquiu, NM is frequently closed, and this seems to be the case currently. While riding the CDR two years ago the situation was very similar so I stopped at the Forest Service office in Cuba before continuing on to Abiquiu. I showed them where I'd be riding and asked if these roads were closed due to fire activity. "Oh no. You'll be fine." Well... 40 or 50 miles later the road was indeed closed. Moral of the story: keep your plans flexible and be ready to route around.
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The Mt Taylor district of the Cibola NF around Grants is also closed. A lot of the CDR goes thru there.

This is going out on a limb, but there has been a little rain and based on history I kind of expect the forests to reopen in a week or two.

So check the Santa Fe and Cibola forests web sites for latest info.

There is also a big fire in the Gila NF. Looks like it is east of the CDR. I don't know of the roads thru there are open.
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:21 AM   #522
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The Mt Taylor district of the Cibola NF around Grants is also closed. A lot of the CDR goes thru there.

This is going out on a limb, but there has been a little rain and based on history I kind of expect the forests to reopen in a week or two.

So check the Santa Fe and Cibola forests web sites for latest info.

There is also a big fire in the Gila NF. Looks like it is east of the CDR. I don't know of the roads thru there are open.

Is this south of Grants? Or the forests more to the northeast of Grants? Thanks for the heads up.

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Old 07-03-2013, 11:45 AM   #523
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The big fire west of Del Norte should not affect you as of now. The roads are open through the south San Juans in CO. That being said, the winds have shifted out of the north for almost a week now which can change the course of the fires. The Windy Pass fire was the one south of US160 and close to Wolf Creek that would have a bearing on travel but I think it's still a long way off from the CDR route. Park Creek and Beaver Creek roads are closed but the Pine Creek access that is part of the official route was open as of Monday. Of course, check with the USFS who will give you the wrong info but it's nice to call so that they will feel needed.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:07 PM   #524
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Big Dogs Route is not the CDR route. It doesn't even pass through Colorado. He has an alternate return through Western Colorado, but not necessary.
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:43 PM   #525
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Big Dogs Route is not the CDR route. It doesn't even pass through Colorado. He has an alternate return through Western Colorado, but not necessary.
Big Dog has lots of routes. His most wesern one was kind of along the Great Western Trail but deviated in a lot of places. I thought he did follow the CDR but I combined his tracks (very old) with several newer riders up to Cannonshot. This gave me a very accurate set with all the wrong turns and detours eliminated. They are on GPSXchange.com
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