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Old 07-06-2013, 09:21 PM   #1291
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Heads up the race is live on CNBC at 7:30 eastern.
My cable company didn't show any listing for F1 on Sunday except the delayed race on NBC sports.
Too bad we're out of town until Sunday early afternoon. At least I have the dvr set for something....
Thanks for the heads up! Thought I may watch it live on the net instead of the 10 am showing.

Should be a good race. Alonso, Kimi, and Hamilton all have won and run there well. If rain was to come it would be ever more interesting.

9 hours and we'll know how it starts... and then see how it goes.

Let it be a great race without the Vettel gapping everyone on the start and running away.
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:28 PM   #1292
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http://stream.nbcsports.com/f1/index...com/liveextra/

Love the live streaming, HD and no friggin commentary
Dammit, not available through my cable company. Not surprising, though, as my cable company is pretty much a guy named Dave operating out of a barn on a sheep farm.
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:55 PM   #1293
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If rain was to come it would be ever more interesting.
Forecast is 0% chance of rain.

It's good to know we'll have a tactical battle from the start. I guess Ferrari saw Hamilton's time and decided it was hopeless. I know Alonso was on track at the time and they yanked him in and changed tires.

The TV kids were saying that it takes three laps to get the Kevlar tires to peak performance. But then all the front runners came out of the pits for just one final lap, so that makes me question all the "prevailing wisdom" about these new tires.
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Old 07-06-2013, 11:52 PM   #1294
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It's good to know we'll have a tactical battle from the start. I guess Ferrari saw Hamilton's time and decided it was hopeless.
I suspect it has more to do with the fact that their car isn't particularly good when light, it's not much cop in qualifying trim but it has so far this season shown that it's one of the better ones with a full tank.

They've then opted for a strategy where they (hopefully) make up some positions in the opening laps and can run longer on the Prime to gain track position when those ahead on the Option have run out of rubber.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:36 AM   #1295
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Possibly so, though it would be optimistic to hope to make up positions on the prime tire when everyone else is on the option.

It will be a simple waiting game. And the gamble is that the option teams will have to pit before the lead equals or surpasses the pit delta time. And even if Ferrari then inherit with the lead, they'll have to be fast enough to hold the it while the other teams emerge on fresh tires.

I guess it will be somewhere between laps 10-20 (more likely, 10-16) when we'll find out if Ferrari's gamble has worked.

That should favor Ferrari. The prime is said to be about 1 second a lap slower. 16 laps is roughly 16 seconds, not allowing for tire degradation. I don't know what the pit delta is for Nurburgring, but it might be close to 20-25 seconds.

It's gonna be close.
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:42 AM   #1296
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Alonso has been making good starts this season. Then there's the usual poor starting from Webber and the usual opportunistic moves within the first few turns - it's then a case of keeping everyone else behind until those ahead on the Option are forced in. After that, push to extend the gap before pitting and hope that it gains track position.

It's a strategy for coping with their poor qualifying trim. It's not calculated to win races but optimises the chances of podium places.
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:47 AM   #1297
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Alonso has been making good starts this season. Then there's the usual poor starting from Webber and the usual opportunistic moves within the first few turns - it's then a case of keeping everyone else behind until those ahead on the Option are forced in. After that, push to extend the gap before pitting and hope that it gains track position.

It's a strategy for coping with their poor qualifying trim. It's not calculated to win races but optimises the chances of podium places.
Maybe the Scuderia are planning on a first turn dust up between Hamilton and Vettel.
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:00 AM   #1298
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Matchett's explanation of the tire construction helped me a lot. I could not figure out how a slick could be directional.

Guess that's why I'm watching the race and not at the Nurburgring.


Go Webber!!

Or Kimi!
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Old 07-07-2013, 07:29 AM   #1299
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Finally found the race on live in my T.V. package. Commentary is in Spanish. I don't know what they are saying, but I'm hoping that Kimi can hang on for the win!
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Old 07-07-2013, 07:46 AM   #1300
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Wow! That was close.
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:30 AM   #1301
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Lotus has made it clear their priority is on Constructor for the rest of the year, as shown by today's "strategy". Given the large gap in Driver standings, I guess I get that. I wonder if anyone has told Kimi about this.

The fake commentary enthusiasm about Kimi's chance to win at the end was insulting, he never had a chance once the team pulled him out of the lead.
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:36 AM   #1302
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:08 AM   #1303
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You're right tho, it was very impressive. Just didn't please me.

Was it my selective eardrums, or did I hear more cheering for the Lotus lads mounting the podium than for Seb from his home crowd?
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:37 AM   #1304
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You're right tho, it was very impressive. Just didn't please me.

Was it my selective eardrums, or did I hear more cheering for the Lotus lads mounting the podium than for Seb from his home crowd?
It was the "Seb sucks" region of your brain that made it sound like that.
Those were some very happy Krauts.

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It was the "Seb sucks" region of your brain that made it sound like that.
Those were some very happy Krauts.

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