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Old 07-02-2013, 12:01 PM   #661
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I assure you they aren't starting that 40 in 6th gear....
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Well, the test is labeled "Top - Gear Roll - On" and has in parenthesis
(40 - 120MPH) so I'm not sure what else it could mean.
Well that is about the worst method of rating performance on pretty much any middle weight.
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:53 PM   #662
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40-60 mph roll-ons? well i'd say the striple is doing just fine.

-2013 BMW HP4 40-60 mph; 2.8 sec
-2013 Ducati Panigale 40-60 mph; 2.9 sec
-2012 STREET TRIPLE R 40-60 mph; 3.3 sec
-2012 Kawasaki ZX14R 40-60 mph; 3.3 sec
-2011 Daytona R 40-60mph; 3.5 sec
-2012 MV Agusta F3 675 40-60 mph; 3.6 sec
-2011 Kawasaki ZX10R 40-60 mph; 3.9 sec
-2012 Ducati 848 Evo 40-60 mph; 4.2 sec
-2012 Ninja 250 40-60 mph; 7.5 sec

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Old 07-02-2013, 03:24 PM   #663
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I assure you they aren't starting that 40 in 6th gear....
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Well, the test is labeled "Top - Gear Roll - On" and has in parenthesis
(40 - 120MPH) so I'm not sure what else it could mean.
My 955 Sprint ST will start out from a stop in 6th. (as I found out after breaking the shift linkage and accidentally shifting UP two gears instead of down at the first stop I came to)

0-150 without shifting a gear.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:24 PM   #664
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My 955 Sprint ST will start out from a stop in 6th. (as I found out after breaking the shift linkage and accidentally shifting UP two gears instead of down at the first stop I came to)

0-150 without shifting a gear.
And what was left of your clutch after that?
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Old 07-03-2013, 07:10 AM   #665
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And what was left of your clutch after that?

Plenty, If this tells you anything I've done beer runs on on trips where I was carrying a 12 pack back to the hotel with my right hand....two blocks. I didn't have to use the throttle, just clutch it out smoothlyand and I could get up to third gear to keep up with traffic sans throttle. Speed Triples will pull from like 30mph in 6th, not pull bike fast but they will keep up with traffic.

The clutch currently in my Speed Triple has something like 80,000 miles on it. Last time I checked it the fibers actually outlasted a couple of the springs.

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40-60 mph roll-ons? well i'd say the striple is doing just fine.

-2013 BMW HP4 40-60 mph; 2.8 sec
-2013 Ducati Panigale 40-60 mph; 2.9 sec
-2012 STREET TRIPLE R 40-60 mph; 3.3 sec
-2012 Kawasaki ZX14R 40-60 mph; 3.3 sec
-2011 Daytona R 40-60mph; 3.5 sec
-2012 MV Agusta F3 675 40-60 mph; 3.6 sec
-2011 Kawasaki ZX10R 40-60 mph; 3.9 sec
-2012 Ducati 848 Evo 40-60 mph; 4.2 sec
-2012 Ninja 250 40-60 mph; 7.5 sec

Heh same time as a ZX-14....and faster than a Daytona R? There are those extra two teeth on the back sprocket.
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:47 AM   #666
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...I've done beer runs on on trips where I was carrying a 12 pack back to the hotel with my right hand....two blocks...
that's what the bitch on the back is for.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:03 AM   #667
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And what was left of your clutch after that?
it was fine. There was VERY little slippage. Have you not ridden a Triple?
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:06 AM   #668
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that's what the bitch on the back is for.
She was the reason that I had to get a 12 pack to start with and she WASN'T coming out of the hotel after 600 miles on the back (I tried to warn her).
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:12 PM   #669
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Well that is about the worst method of rating performance on pretty much any middle weight.
Yeah, I'm not sure what the test is supposed to tell us, but it's something they do routinely. I said it already, but I wouldn't be in sixth at 40 either, and if I was wouldn't go WOT from there.
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:30 PM   #670
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I currently ride a Ninja 250 (first bike, 3 years and going).
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1) Are parts more expensive compared to Japanese bikes? Do they take a long time to arrive?
depends on the parts, generally i would say slightly more expensive, availability isn't a problem. Triumph dealers are everywhere.

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2) What was the last year with the under tail exhaust? Is it still possible to get an aftermarket under tail exhaust for newer models?
'12, no undertail that i've seen for the '13. most guys go the other way & remove the undertail exhaust for lower CG, less heat in the legs in the summer time, and looks.

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3) Do any one of you plan on moving on to something like the new Yamaha triple -- FZ-09?
hahahahah

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4) Is the R upgrade REALLY worth it if I don't track the bike?
many (if not all) who bought the standard and really ride wish they had the R suspension. that's why you'll see so many guys swapping to Daytona forks/shock. and they usually get on a thread like this and whine "but i love my non-R suspension, and it's total lack of adjustability....blah blah blah" all the while they're searching eBay for forks/shocks...

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5) Anyone do gravel roads with knobbies?
the Streety is not a dirt bike. if you want a 400+ pound dirt bike, get a DR650..... like me. cheap, built like a brick, run forever and when you dump it in the dirt you haven't thrashed a $10k motorcycle.
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Old 07-03-2013, 05:19 PM   #671
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Hey indr, I'm on the other side of that same decision... 3 years on my first bike, an '09 Ninja 250R which I modded the crap out of. I upgraded to my '09 Street Triple (non-R) in January.

I don't know what your plans are, but if you're looking for a middle-weight do-it-all bike that can run with stuff like secure hard luggage & a bit of wind protection you might want to consider a Tiger (bigger, more non-paved capable) or something like an FZ-6 or Versys. I adore the power and handling of the Street Triple, especially coming from the Ninja, but the bike does lack a little in the practicality and comfort department. I'm more of a touring-type guy, however; you may want something different.

I can't get over the engine though... I made my 250R useable on Texas highways by removing the snorkel, putting in Factory Pro jetting, and installing an Area P full exhaust system. The STR beats the crap out of the Ninja so hard I was wondering on my first ride why I ever spent a dime trying to upgrade it when I could have just saved for the Triumph.... That 3.3-second 40-60 roll-on time is no B.S. and it's sooooo easy to ride.

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1) Are parts more expensive compared to Japanese bikes? Do they take a long time to arrive? Is maintenance more challenging (keep in mind I do all maintenance on my current bike. Recently did a decent job of engine rebuild/carb cleaning)?
Bikebandit is the main U.S. internet source for OEM parts. I don't see any real difference in price between Triumph and Kawasaki replacement parts. Triumph might be a little cheaper for the small parts, actually. It will take longer to get them, though... like 2 weeks instead of 1.

I've found general maintenance to be easier than on the Ninja from the lack of fairings alone. I love not having to undo two dozen fasteners and haul around big slabs of plastic every time I want to get serious. I don't seem to need as many tools around, either, Triumph bolt & screw sizes keep to a smaller range across the bike.

I haven't done anything more serious on the Street Triple than a tire change, ECU reflash, front fork cartridge change, and shock installation though; I haven't needed to do any engine work, which may be more difficult due to the tight engine fit into the frame. Personally I doubt it would be any worse than trying to get the carbs back into the 250....

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2) What was the last year with the under tail exhaust? Is it still possible to get an aftermarket under tail exhaust for newer models?
"New" 2013+ has low exhaust, 07-11 and 2012 all have dual undertail pipes. Arrow makes a 3-in-1 lowboy that fits 07-12's, but I've never heard of anyone wanting to go the other way.

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3) Do any one of you plan on moving on to something like the new Yamaha triple -- FZ-09?
There's no need IMO. The Yamaha looks so close to the Street Triple R that it wouldn't be much of a change. If Yamaha made something like a Versys using their new engine, with a good hard luggage option, ABS, decent adjustable suspension, and an effective windscreen, I might be tempted.

If I changed bikes it would be to something a little more adventuresome and/or touring-friendly like the Tiger 800 or Ninja 1000.

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4) Is the R upgrade REALLY worth it if I don't track the bike? I do mostly commutes, errands, long trips, etc. But, with my current situation, a bike is my main and only means of transportation. I put on ~ 30,000 Kms every year.
Yes, it's worth it. The extra modularity and adjustability in the suspension, plus the radial brakes, would take more $$ and time to retrofit onto a non-R than buying the R outright. If there had been an R available when I upgraded I'd have gone for that.

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5) Anyone do gravel roads with knobbies?
Well... I don't, but this guy did, sorta.
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Old 07-04-2013, 01:38 PM   #672
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Haven't you read the first three pages of this thread? Really???

You don't need knobbies, but ADV tires (70/30) will help if you ride gravel frequently.
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:01 PM   #673
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Street Touring

Just got back from a week of touring on my new Street. Rode from St Louis out to Lexington, Ky to attend STAR '13. Then rode south to the Dragon and Cheroahala. 2,100 miles in a week. The bike was surprisingly comfy even on some some interstate! The only time I was wishing for one of my other touring mounts was the last leg back to STL making time on the interstate and bucking a 20 mph gusty headwind

Got a couple good pics from the Dragon Of course, they weren't set up to take pics in the corners I was over the furthest on.

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it was fine. There was VERY little slippage. Have you not ridden a Triple?
Owned a Sprint 955iST for two years.
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40-60 mph roll-ons? well i'd say the striple is doing just fine.

-2013 BMW HP4 40-60 mph; 2.8 sec
-2013 Ducati Panigale 40-60 mph; 2.9 sec
-2012 STREET TRIPLE R 40-60 mph; 3.3 sec
-2012 Kawasaki ZX14R 40-60 mph; 3.3 sec
-2011 Daytona R 40-60mph; 3.5 sec
-2012 MV Agusta F3 675 40-60 mph; 3.6 sec
-2011 Kawasaki ZX10R 40-60 mph; 3.9 sec
-2012 Ducati 848 Evo 40-60 mph; 4.2 sec
-2012 Ninja 250 40-60 mph; 7.5 sec

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Heh same time as a ZX-14....and faster than a Daytona R? There are those extra two teeth on the back sprocket.
I am not trying to take anything away from the street3, i am a litle triumph fan and have been lusting the speed3 since MI:2 movie.

To take a 6th gear test for a bike with the top speed of 135-140mph vs a bike thats limited electronic to 186mph dont tell you anything, at 3rd gear the ZX14R has a speed or atleast very close to the street3 top speed. And the ZX14R goes from 0-150mph in 10sec(not with me behind the bars)
But the street3 and ZX14R are two different animals.

But the BMW S1000RR is impressiv, iv seen test wher the ZX14,Busa and S1000RR in streight line speedtest wher the Busa and ZX14 tied on 0-60mph but from ther the S1000RR won everything
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