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Old 07-08-2013, 10:18 AM   #46
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That's just sick Perry.

Bigtodd got one too - low time 525 with a freshened motor and a plate. Already sprung for a big boy too.

There are deals out there people, you just have to be ready to pounce.

There are also some pre- '04 bikes that got plates under the old rule. All manner of models, even some 2-strokes. I rode a plated GasGas for several years, it was a '97.

This is probly at least 10 years ago, taken up on Sherman Pass Jeep Trail, Kennedy Meadows.

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Old 07-08-2013, 10:21 AM   #47
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Oh noes, it's after the 2004 cut off date and it's illegal....the sky is falling.
Well he doesn't have a plate yet... and having a friend at the DMV is where the confidence is coming from.

It's the definition of LEGAL that gets debated. There is always a way. But walking out of the DMV with a plate defines success... not legality.
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Old 07-08-2013, 10:48 AM   #48
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Oh noes, it's after the 2004 cut off date and it's illegal....the sky is falling.




What cutoff date? The DMV goes by the vin number, not the year model.
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:26 PM   #49
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Oh noes, it's after the 2004 cut off date and it's illegal....the sky is falling.




So would a 04 be plateable?
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:33 PM   #50
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So would a 04 be plateable?
Yes it would, IF the 8th digit in the vin# is NOT a C or a 3. BUY THAT 04'!

here's my 04' with a plate. it used to be sooo nice before two and a half years of abuse.

in the mud....

or the snow....

or the desert....

or in a ditch, the 525 always comes through.
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:49 PM   #51
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I just might have to. I like my TE310 but I need to love my bike. I loved my 200mxc with the Rekluse. It was the best bike for KM and the like. Fell short in the open desert but still hauled the mail.

For Sale
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:23 PM   #52
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I just might have to. I like my TE310 but I need to love my bike. I loved my 200mxc with the Rekluse. It was the best bike for KM and the like. Fell short in the open desert but still hauled the mail.

For Sale
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Big tank and stock tank
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$3000
Yeah, I'm thinking of a 300 with a Nevada plate....I'd like to own!
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:31 PM   #53
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>snip

upgraded powerband
new flux capacitor
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The 'powerband'...is that like a rubber band for your motor? Does it make it spin faster?
And the capacitor...for time travel?



If I had an extra three grand lying around I'd take it off your hands. The newer ones are even better. Is that a red-head one?


On the '04 450/525EXC - not legally plate-able. Yeah, if you know someone at DMV that will perjure themselves you might get a plate, or if you get a dumb one and they do it by mistake. It does not have a federal EPA sticker.

CARB/DMV cut off all plating of non-road motorcycles as of the '04 year and model. 2007 was the first year that CARB issued a certification for hiway on the EXC's, and ONLY for the 450/525EXC - not MXC, not any other models, not the 250 either.
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Old 07-08-2013, 05:46 PM   #54
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This is probly at least 10 years ago, taken up on Sherman Pass Jeep Trail, Kennedy Meadows.

Funny thing, and I hate to piss in anyone's coolaid, but that KDX on the
right side of your picture now has a street plate.

It's all good Chris, just had to toss in my 2 cents.
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Old 07-08-2013, 06:36 PM   #55
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Hey Jeffery - my KM buddy!!

Is that the same KDX as in my photo from 10 years ago? Is that the one that I painted the frame for your resto?

You remember that ride, don't you? We had someone along that was a doddler and I got tired of waiting and rode back to camp on the road.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:25 AM   #56
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I have a Husky WR300 with a VA registration good until 2015. On Sunday the nice ladies at Carnegie told me all I needed to do was to buy the $30 out of state visitors OHV sticker and I could ride it. Of course I'm keeping my VA DL as long as I still own property there. Not really applicable to the OP but still an interesting way to ride a red sticker bike in the summer.
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:38 AM   #57
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What cutoff date? The DMV goes by the vin number, not the year model.

Yeah, I know, but the internet myth says that they stopped allowing bikes without a plate to get one after some mythical date in 2004. It's been spread in this thread already.
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Yeah, I know, but the internet myth says that they stopped allowing bikes without a plate to get one after some mythical date in 2004. It's been spread in this thread already.
I guess we shall see when I go back in for the plate. I was told by DMV that they go by the vin#, no C or 3 your good to go. 8th digit. Now That I've invested $450 In the BD light kit and the time to install it, I sure hope it goes through.
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Let us know how it goes Perry.

For a 2004 the C or 3 just means it's green sticker or red sticker. Does not grant it hiway usage. You may get a dumb clerk that will do it, but don't be surprised if they turn you down. The answer you got could very well have been referring to later models that are CARB certified for hiway licensure.

KTM does not state on their MSO (manufacturers statement of origin) that the bike is 'offroad use only' or 'competition use only' so that helps. But those were not hiway bikes and on a new title application they are required to do a vin check, specifically looking for a 50-state EPA sticker saying it conforms to federal hiway standards. The inspector will ask you where this sticker is. They have to sign the VIN Check form that it has it on there, enter their badge number and contact phone number. This is what confuses some (Larry) on "going by the VIN." The VIN has a year of manufacture coded into it, and 2004 KTM EXC's are not CARB legal for hiway use. And yes, the cutoff was 2004 for getting non-hiway motorcycles plated. It also happened that there were no newer bikes that year (2004) so that's where the year cutoff moniker comes from.

You will also need a lighting inspection certificate and sign an affidavit that the bike meets hiway regs for safety equipment. However they do not check for this equipment, you sign that it has it. Some bike shops can provide this for you - I got one done without them even looking at it for $50.

Good luck! Kali-Jerry got his, maybe you will too.
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Let us know how it goes Perry.

For a 2004 the C or 3 just means it's green sticker or red sticker. Does not grant it hiway usage. You may get a dumb clerk that will do it, but don't be surprised if they turn you down. The answer you got could very well have been referring to later models that are CARB certified for hiway licensure.

KTM does not state on their MSO (manufacturers statement of origin) that the bike is 'offroad use only' or 'competition use only' so that helps. But those were not hiway bikes and on a new title application they are required to do a vin check, specifically looking for a 50-state EPA sticker saying it conforms to federal hiway standards. The inspector will ask you where this sticker is. They have to sign the VIN Check form that it has it on there, enter their badge number and contact phone number. This is what confuses some (Larry) on "going by the VIN." The VIN has a year of manufacture coded into it, and 2004 KTM EXC's are not CARB legal for hiway use. And yes, the cutoff was 2004 for getting non-hiway motorcycles plated. It also happened that there were no newer bikes that year (2004) so that's where the year cutoff moniker comes from.

You will also need a lighting inspection certificate and sign an affidavit that the bike meets hiway regs for safety equipment. However they do not check for this equipment, you sign that it has it. Some bike shops can provide this for you - I got one done without them even looking at it for $50.

Good luck! Jerry Jahn got his, maybe you will too.
Haha yeah, and Jerry's is an XCW.
My local Yamaha dealer is doing the Vin check and light cert., they do alot conversions on new(WR450) and used dual sports. They have a plated 450X for sale now. I should have this done by the end of this week. I'll post up after my trip to DMV.
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