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Old 07-10-2013, 10:41 AM   #3076
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All courageous acts are foolhardy as well. It's the nature of risk taking.

I am more concerned that Lorenzo's actions will put pressure on future injured riders to follow his example.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:47 AM   #3077
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When I broke mine, I couldn't even reach for the TV remote for a few days. Was back at work in about 4 days but had to reach across to close the door of the truck. I can't imagine how he pulled that off!
What I can't imagine is getting that suit on and off.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:52 AM   #3078
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Can there be any doubt, that racing 1 and a half days after you have left the surgeon's table, is not advisable? Re-writing some medical basics could work once depending on your luck, but I doubt they should make this standard procedure.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:09 AM   #3079
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Can there be any doubt, that racing 1 and a half days after you have left the surgeon's table, is not advisable? Re-writing some medical basics could work once depending on your luck, but I doubt they should make this standard procedure.
Are you saying that even if the doctors cleared him he should not have raced?
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:20 AM   #3080
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Are you saying that even if the doctors cleared him he should not have raced?
His surgeon told him he shouldn't. The Dorna docs gave him the ok. As it turned out, he didn't crash again (his surgeon's primary concern) and a subsequent examination by the surgeon found no damage from having raced.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:30 AM   #3081
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Are you saying that even if the doctors cleared him he should not have raced?
It wasn't so long ago Collin was prevented from racing with a lesser injury.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:34 AM   #3082
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It wasn't so long ago Collin was prevented from racing with a lesser injury.
Presumably he failed the pressup test.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:36 AM   #3083
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His surgeon told him he shouldn't. The Dorna docs gave him the ok. As it turned out, he didn't crash again (his surgeon's primary concern) and a subsequent examination by the surgeon found no damage from having raced.
Right. It's the Dorna docs that clear him to race. His surgeon just makes recommendations. It seems to me it's asking a lot to expect him to sit out a race and give up a possible 25 points when the docs on site tell him he's cleared to go.
As long as there are different Dorna docs at different tracks you're going to get inconsistancies like with CE. It's a judgement call after all.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:38 AM   #3084
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Presumably he failed the pressup test.
Nope.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:38 AM   #3085
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Right. It's the Dorna docs that clear him to race. His surgeon just makes recommendations. It seems to me it's asking a lot to expect him to sit out a race and give up a possible 25 points when the docs on site tell him he's cleared to go.
As long as there are different Dorna docs at different tracks you're going to get inconsistancies like with CE. It's a judgement call after all.
Dorna docs go to all the rounds. There is also a local "track" doc, and that is who denied Edwards in '11.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:45 AM   #3086
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Dorna docs go to all the rounds. There is also a local "track" doc, and that is who denied Edwards in '11.
My misunderstanding then. I'm not going to second guess Lorenzo's decision any more than I'd second guess John Wesley Powell decions to head down the Colorado river. I'm not going to second guess either doctors decision either. I don't have the medical training. I have broken a collar bone before and can't imagine doing what Lorenzo did or will do this weekend.
It seems to me the issue is with inconsistancies in the clearing process then. We know how to fix that. But Dorna has never been known for being consistant anyway.
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Old 07-10-2013, 12:30 PM   #3087
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Racing is their job and they have a decade or so in the spotlight.


IMHO, here we have a bunch of enthusiasts and amateurs (us!) second guessing a highest level pro's situation and motivation. These guys are reaching for the top prize in MC racing.

If they concerned themselves with the bad what-ifs, that golden ring would stay out of reach.
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Old 07-10-2013, 12:32 PM   #3088
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I am more concerned that this topic will continue for another 3 pages.
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Old 07-10-2013, 12:34 PM   #3089
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His surgeon told him he shouldn't. The Dorna docs gave him the ok.
Checks by Dorna were only done to confirm, that the rider fulfills the minimum requirements to participate. Whether it is wise for him to do so, is another matter.
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Old 07-10-2013, 12:49 PM   #3090
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Stay away from dirt bikes then. Almost a monthly occurrence.
HAHA so true slidin the back while pushin the front and then it all gets away form ya
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