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Old 07-08-2013, 10:18 PM   #3586
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Bought a used R1200GS from Blackfoot, had a clutch fail within a couple hundred miles. The Warranty was given, and so were many scars from the repairs. Then when I picked up the bike I was told how much of a pile of junk it was... My response was you sold it to me! Sheepish look on the techs face! The salesman had lied to me on a small point, and that really made me mad.

Now Anderwerks gets my business, and Dave is always willing to discuss bike issues. I will support locally, it just won't be at Blackfoot again.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:57 AM   #3587
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Neighbour and good friend bought a BMW HP4 last winter.
Blackfoot dropped it during PDI but didn't tell him... until he looked closley (some carbon fibre was crushed, scraped other bits) as he had it in his living room for 1/2 the winter .
Lots of promises from Blackfoot, no action other than being treated like dirt by everyone from the service manager to one of the owners.

GW Cycle on the other hand are great to deal with. I was just looking at a Fly DS helmet and they immediately state that it's not (whatever the retail price stated) but X (sorry, I can't remember) which happens to be the same price you can get them on line. they do that every time i'm in there.

I'm glad Blackfoot is trying to turn things around but until they actually do I think I'll shop elsewhere.
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:37 AM   #3588
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I take pride in doing all my motorcycle work and knowing full well I have the proper tools and knowledge to fix any issues that arrise on the trail in the back country. From broken chains going across the Great Basin to fixing flat studded tires way back in the bush during -20 temps at night and in the snow..

When I come into a shop and see their prices, the look on their staffs face when I ask them a genuine question, and the feeling of twisting arms to get anythign done or somebody with some basic knowledge of motorcycles, I feel happy not to support them.

I love going into shops and talking about bikes you own and hearing the load of BS the sales guys give about bikes when obviously their knowledge of sales stops at experience and knowledge of product. My Aprilia was great for that. Shamefull I had to listen to other customers getting fed a bunch of BS.

Calgary has a huge market for this type of thing. There will always be a shop, why support the ones who gouge pricing, have poor staff, and have terrible mechanics?

This isn't directed towards BF, it's directed to ANY dealership who operates like this.

Support the guys who help. Who have fair prices, who know about riding and the product they sell, etc. The big guys can fall, but there will be somebody to take up where they left off. Hopefully learning from other's mistakes.



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GW Cycle on the other hand are great to deal with. I was just looking at a Fly DS helmet and they immediately state that it's not (whatever the retail price stated) but X (sorry, I can't remember) which happens to be the same price you can get them on line. they do that every time i'm in there.

I'm glad Blackfoot is trying to turn things around but until they actually do I think I'll shop elsewhere.

That helmet is a pretty damn good deal for the price. One of the better dual sport helmets out there at a fraction of the cost. Only issue I have had with mine is windshield control/friction is wearing a bit, and the front vent. Keep in mind it's seen ~30,000km's of abuse. Lots of comments from guys running lids 3-5x as much about how they wished they bought this lid.
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:49 PM   #3589
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From broken chains going across the Great Basin to fixing flat studded tires way back in the bush during -20 temps at night and in the snow..
Hey old-timer... did you have to walk uphill both ways in gale-force winds too... and use the rib bones from a frozen beaver carcass as tire irons

Sorry - couldn't resist. Feels like a Monty Python skit about to break out here.

Carry on.
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:21 PM   #3590
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Hey old-timer... did you have to walk uphill both ways in gale-force winds too... and use the rib bones from a frozen beaver carcass as tire irons

Sorry - couldn't resist. Feels like a Monty Python skit about to break out here.

Carry on.
I know it sounds like a song, but I guess I'm tired of people who just hand everything over to others to do then have issues. I look up to those who do it themselves, know what they do inside and out, and work for their smiles. I try to replicate it myself.

People complaining about service have options! Same with high prices!
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:19 PM   #3591
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Bragg Creek and south road update

Went out Bragg Creek way to see what the roads are like today.
- 66 is closed at the MacLean creek junction
- north end of MacLean creek is closed at the store
- south end of MacLean creek is open to about 5 km past the Gorge Creek turnoff
- east part of Gorge Creek is open to the regular gate
- 546 is open to the end
- west end of Gorge Creek is washed out about 1 km off of 546
- Plummer Road is open
- 762 is open as well as the road south of it that connects to 22.

Tomorrow we are heading north on the FTR to see how it looks. Hopefully be able to connect up to get into Sundre.

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Old 07-09-2013, 08:16 PM   #3592
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Today!

3 of us did all the twisty gravel to Water Valley. Then West onto Harold Creek Rd to the 940. North to Mountinaire Lodge and up to Ya Ha Tinda and back out down the 940 to 1A to Cochrane. All in great shape with no dust.
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:30 PM   #3593
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3 of us did all the twisty gravel to Water Valley. Then West onto Harold Creek Rd to the 940. North to Mountinaire Lodge and up to Ya Ha Tinda and back out down the 940 to 1A to Cochrane. All in great shape with no dust.
It was great to chat with you guys on the road today! After we talked about the wandering I was getting at speed on gravel, I took your advice and tried cranking the preload on the rear shock all the way up, and sure enough a big difference - way more stable. Maybe I'll be able to keep up with Floss one of these days! Thanks again.
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:49 PM   #3594
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It sure is nice to get advice from the guys who really know their stuff. Nice that your bike feels more solid on the gravel. Gravel is such a strange surface to drive on when you are used to pavement. When you get that orange beast dialed in it will be awesome.


Checked my wheel bearings today on my honda and they were in bad shape. Maybe my mileage will improve after replacing them. I remember all those fun water crossings that probably took their toll on them.
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:56 PM   #3595
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- north end of MacLean creek is closed at the store
Rod, are you saying the road to the campground and staging loops?

They were open last Thursday when we rode. Going out this Thursday again...
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:33 PM   #3596
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No, the road to the campground and staging areas is still open. Just the actual MacLean Creek road is closed at the fork. Sorry, I should have been a little more specific.
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:00 AM   #3597
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They were open last Thursday when we rode. Going out this Thursday again...
FYI - we staged out of Fisher South last Thursday - Barwell, Fisher Delight, Log Hopper, etc are all in excellent condition. Staging area is just before the gate closure coming in from the south side of McLean Trail.
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:59 AM   #3598
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It was great to chat with you guys on the road today! After we talked about the wandering I was getting at speed on gravel, I took your advice and tried cranking the preload on the rear shock all the way up, and sure enough a big difference - way more stable. Maybe I'll be able to keep up with Floss one of these days! Thanks again.
Glad we could help. Too bad you didn't have more time to tag along. Maybe we'll see you out there again sometime.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:34 AM   #3599
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FYI - we staged out of Fisher South last Thursday - Barwell, Fisher Delight, Log Hopper, etc are all in excellent condition. Staging area is just before the gate closure coming in from the south side of McLean Trail.

That makes sense. I just wasn't aware of the actual road name. Guess I didn't think too much about it when I heard "past store" I figured going towards campground.

The trails were indeed in great shape. I don't know most of the names, but we did the single track out to Swanny's, then something hallows at the bottom of the valley, then Viagra ridge and had to book it back on the truck trails. Three of us ran the single track back to the trucks from there while two others took the road. Fun ride, but too much stopping. I'm a firm believer in stopping at trail branches and turns, but as soon as the guy catches from behind, you go. Our whole group was stopping, waiting for last person, etc. Too many engine restarts, talking, etc.

I found the cutlines have to be ridden with caution. Some random washouts in places you wouldn't think would be washed out. There could be some nasty accidents because of that.
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Old 07-10-2013, 01:00 PM   #3600
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Hey old-timer... did you have to walk uphill both ways in gale-force winds too... and use the rib bones from a frozen beaver carcass as tire irons

Sorry - couldn't resist. Feels like a Monty Python skit about to break out here.

Carry on.
Good guy to have ona ride when your chain spins off the rear slrocket and jams up on the front. I was f ing wlorried
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