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Old 07-13-2013, 01:15 PM   #7516
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I have, but not as bad as the 08's did. The reason for the 08 piston and ring design change was oil usage at the higher rpm and ring lands breaking. And when a land broke, there WAS oil usage!
Was this on certain year Gen I models?
I've never burned as much as a drop on my 99, regardless of how I rode.
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:17 PM   #7517
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Have a stroll on over to some of the other KLR forums. A lot have reported oil burners, mine burns a little bit of oil.



That.
Hmm... I see you have an 04. I wonder if this issue started during certain model years.
Hopefully your issue won't get worse.
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:29 PM   #7518
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Was this on certain year Gen I models?
I've never burned as much as a drop on my 99, regardless of how I rode.
It is my understanding that it applied to Gen 1 pistons as they were breaking lands. Whether it applied only to certain years of castings, I do not know. It was enough of an issue for them to change the design. As soon as the Gen 2 pistons were available they changed the P# and the Gen 1 pistons were no longer available. Then in early 09 they changed them or the rings again. I have not had need to nor seen or compared those to the previous generations as by then had gone to the forged 685..
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:45 PM   #7519
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'06 non oil burner with 6k miles! I hear it is a roll of the dice when you get above '01.
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Old 07-13-2013, 04:26 PM   #7520
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Any of you guys have any valve shims to sell or swap? I need 2x235 and 2x255s. I ordered from Mike but he's still moving his shop so it's bomb to be a while. Pm me thanks!
Rocky Mountain ATV can get them to you in a couple of days.
http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/
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Old 07-13-2013, 04:31 PM   #7521
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:28 PM   #7522
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Any of you guys have any valve shims to sell or swap? I need 2x235 and 2x255s. I ordered from Mike but he's still moving his shop so it's bomb to be a while. Pm me thanks!
If you have a bmw dealer near you, the shims from a K75 are the same--and they are cheaper, believe it or not.


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Old 07-13-2013, 05:31 PM   #7523
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It is my understanding that it applied to Gen 1 pistons as they were breaking lands. Whether it applied only to certain years of castings, I do not know. It was enough of an issue for them to change the design. As soon as the Gen 2 pistons were available they changed the P# and the Gen 1 pistons were no longer available. Then in early 09 they changed them or the rings again. I have not had need to nor seen or compared those to the previous generations as by then had gone to the forged 685..
Thanks Tsotsie. I appreciate it.
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Old 07-13-2013, 06:25 PM   #7524
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Any of you guys have any valve shims to sell or swap? I need 2x235 and 2x255s. I ordered from Mike but he's still moving his shop so it's bomb to be a while. Pm me thanks!
I wouldn't be so sure it'll take too long. I just ordered some filters, gaskets and stuff from him on the 9th or 10th and when I came home Friday it was in my mailbox (and I'm in MI).
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:48 PM   #7525
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Im pretty lucky I didn't damage my engine from over filling the oil. I drained it out, refilled and put the 2.5qts back in. Cleaned the airbox and air filter very well and cleaned the swingarm, rear brake rotor and tire as much as I could. I took it for a ride today and it was its old self. Dodged a bullet and learned my lesson
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Old 07-14-2013, 12:05 AM   #7526
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Im pretty lucky I didn't damage my engine from over filling the oil. I drained it out, refilled and put the 2.5qts back in. Cleaned the airbox and air filter very well and cleaned the swingarm, rear brake rotor and tire as much as I could. I took it for a ride today and it was its old self. Dodged a bullet and learned my lesson


Glad everything turned out well! Keep an eye on the airbox, you might recoat everything behind it as it seeps out the last of the oil.
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Old 07-14-2013, 01:19 AM   #7527
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I wouldn't be so sure it'll take too long. I just ordered some filters, gaskets and stuff from him on the 9th or 10th and when I came home Friday it was in my mailbox (and I'm in MI).
ordered my doohickey kit from him and got it pretty much the next day, i'm in Sacramento and hes in the LA area that does not mean much but looks like he is shipping items asap.
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Old 07-15-2013, 05:48 AM   #7528
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new piston

Due to the well documented burning of millions of litres of oil on the 08 model, I have today finished dismantling my top end.

The cams look great, as does most everything else, except:

one of the valve lifters didn't want to come out.
The piston has a nice big lump of carbon / burnt oil on it, and the underneath of the head / combustion area is BLACK. SO much burnt oil.
The spark plug was almost indistinguishable from the head, so much grey ashy crap built up on it.

The bike only has 27,000 KMs on it.

I'm ordering a Schnitz 685 piston kit and getting the cylinder bored to match obviously.

What else should I consider replacing while I have it apart?

I'm thinking of getting the head cleaned professionally while I get the cylinder done. Thinking maybe I'll replace all the valves / seals etc. Thoughts anyone?

Anything else?

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It's amazing it still runs, check out the spark plug!

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I'm liking the lower centre of gravity...

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Old 07-15-2013, 07:47 AM   #7529
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2001,23800miles and only burns about 200cc between 2000 mile oil changes
Roughly 16000 miles on my new-to-me '04.
Came with a fresh oil change (top of sight glass with bike level) when I picked it up from the dealer, and there is no perceptible change in level now, after 1000 miles with several 1+ hour, 5500-6000RPM slab flaggings.
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:27 AM   #7530
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Then again, I wouldn't be surprised at ANYTHING found on, "other KLR forums."
I'd trust anything found on those "other" KLR forums before I trust anything here on this forum, any day, every day Just my general observation, but there's not many members here actively trying to improve the KLR as a whole.

And if you did read, there's plenty of Gen1 bikes that burn oil. It's the nature of older engines, especially those who roll 4000rpm+ daily, they tend to drink a little bit of their own blood as they get older.

My 04 burns only a little bit of oil between oil changes, as in from the top of the sight glass to about 1/8" below the sight glass.

As is with everything, your oil consumption may vary. Some engines burn it, some don't, plain and simple. Just because MY engine burns it doesn't mean YOUR engine will.
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