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Old 07-11-2013, 09:50 PM   #31
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Hardcore off road is what I use.
Still works fine on the street especially if you like to hit speed bumps at 50 mph.
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Old 07-12-2013, 02:43 AM   #32
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Indy...

Traxxion tell me the 3 valving options are:

Hard core offroad (pretending it is a motocrosser), normal off road, street.

are you refering/recomending the 'normal offroad' or 'hardcore offroad'..?

thanks!

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If you refer back a couple posts, What they told me is

"Hardcore Offroad"
"Adventure touring"
Street

I went with their "Hardcore Offroad".

My thought was to get the greatest benefit where it is the hardest to ride.
If I was just a street rider I probably wouldn't have upgraded the suspension.
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Old 07-12-2013, 08:16 AM   #33
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Indy Unlimited;21846294 especially if you like to hit speed bumps at 50 mph.
THat's sort of like hitting the potholes in the forest service roads at 50mph

and it's even better after turning the damping adjustments out


Because I ride a lot of roads that the pavement is in not so good shape on road/ off road isn't much different at times.
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Old 07-12-2013, 08:39 AM   #34
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So MB.. do to find that the hardcore offroad is a tiny bit worse than stock on the highway...?

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Old 07-12-2013, 11:36 AM   #35
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So MB.. do to find that the hardcore offroad is a tiny bit worse than stock on the highway...?

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NO.........

the Hardcore offroad is LOTS AND LOTS better than the stock on the highway.

What I was trying to say is if all I road was smooth pavement, the stock suspension is adequate.

I think the reason is the stock springs are around .44kg and the Traxxion Hardcore are .65kg (for me 200lbs+ touring gear), AND the Traxxion valving allows the forks to absorb the square edge bumps so much better.

In all my reading as I understand it the stock forks hydrolock (fluid stops moving) in a sharp jolt, this is what causes the jarring feel from every pothole etc.

When I did this upgrade, I got the forks quicker than I got my shock.
The forks were a MUCH bigger improvement, but they really highlighted the shocks difficencys.

as an example, there is a dirt/gravel road near me that gets alot of traffic and is potholes ( small to medium) and washboarded in sections.
with the stock suspension I became uncomfortable at about 35mph, the jarring through the handlebars made me feel almost out of control.
With just the Traxxion Forks, and the stock shock I was comfortable to about 50mph (I chicken out about there, lots of trees, dropoffs to a creek and banks to hit)

With the Wilburs shock add another 5mph.

I've been working alot lately and haven't been riding as much but I think after playing with the damping adjustments on the forks and shocks I can absorb even more of the sharp edged jolts.

On a nice winding paved country road, with the stock suspension I could keep a pretty good speed, with the new suspension I keep reminding myself to not get caught (probably 20-25mph higher in the curves)

As I recall the Adventure spring rate is about .75kg and the street is about .95kg, I think that would be quite stiff for much rough surface riding.
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:37 PM   #36
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cheers for the clarification MB.. pretty sure i'll be goin down that path..


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Old 07-13-2013, 06:47 PM   #37
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so it looks like i'll pull the trigger and order the traxxions (hardcore offroad edition) tomorrow night...

if anyone should know of any reason why i shouldnt, speak now or forever hold thy peace.......


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Old 07-13-2013, 07:21 PM   #38
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Just run 5W oil around 100 mm from the top of the collapsed tube with spring and cartridge installed.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:23 PM   #39
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Hi GoneAgain,
keep posting time to get parts, ease of fitting etc. It might be time to talk nice to "she who must be obeyed" ! Just finished her shed to house new horse float so I think I might have some brownie points.
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:09 AM   #40
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so it looks like i'll pull the trigger and order the traxxions (hardcore offroad edition) tomorrow night...

if anyone should know of any reason why i shouldnt, speak now or forever hold thy peace.......


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Nothing more to say.


Enjoy, and save some money for a shock now
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:26 AM   #41
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Enjoy, and save some money for a shock now

funny.... i started googling things like BM302 today


i can feel 'another' suspension tread comin on


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Old 07-14-2013, 07:27 AM   #42
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Just run 5W oil around 100 mm from the top of the collapsed tube with spring and cartridge installed.

Thanks mate... no doubt i'll have a question or 2 after they arive...


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Old 07-14-2013, 07:30 AM   #43
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Hi GoneAgain,
keep posting time to get parts, ease of fitting etc. It might be time to talk nice to "she who must be obeyed" ! Just finished her shed to house new horse float so I think I might have some brownie points.

will do... i hate it when you come across a thread, asking about something your lookin for and there is a whole lot of quality advise from inmates...and no closure from the OP re what they did or how the actual product faired v expectation etc...

might even post some pics

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Old 07-14-2013, 02:40 PM   #44
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Hi GA....Yes please keep us posted....lookin at goin down the same path
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:34 PM   #45
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so minor update.... the Traxxons are in the post


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