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Old 07-07-2013, 05:30 AM   #16
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How long can it possibly take to run in? Change the oil, job done.

Don't make me start a running in thread.

I'll do it...I swear I'll do it man...I'm on the edge here...


Then I'll start an oil thread....and a "what are the best dirt tyres" thread....


My fingers on the enter key man....I'll take you all with me....
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:34 AM   #17
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There's none left to buy.
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:27 AM   #18
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You know how it is when you have an anxiety disorder?

The wife told me it was 10:00 and I was pacing up and down cursing your tardiness. I was nearly out of my mind when you showed up. At 10:01.

Do you have any idea how badly it will go for me if I can't get a KTM by Christmas?


Oh sweet zombie Jesus....this will not end well.
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:57 AM   #19
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The extra hp of the KTM comes at a price.

I was travelling 2 up, and flogging the F800 like a red headed step son. At the fuel stop I recorded my worst consumption ever over that distance, 220 kms on 13 litres of fuel.

The KTM travelled just over 200 from his fuelling point, and used 14.

But the KTM holds more fuel.

Why is life filled with cruel irony?
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:57 AM   #20
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Your see guys, I am not conserned how much faster the KTM is than GS800, since you can't really compare on HWY, but I am wondering is how nimble the 1190R will be offroad?? Will it compare to 800GSA?? Better? or will it be like 1200GSA??, because I got one already. My 2012 r1200GSA is an awesome machine... but when I am having fun with it offroad, pushing it hard, I feel like I am about to snap the shaft drive....I am ready for chain ...despite the pains of up keeping...
So, anybody here have ridden a GS800 and KTM1190???
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Old 07-07-2013, 03:47 PM   #21
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Hi,

as I understand, You are riding a R1200GS? Keep it! Or buy a F800!
I did a testride at the Touratech Travel Event first with the new watercooled R1200GS and immediately after that a KTM 1190. Power is enough on both machines, but while the BMW fits like an old sneaker from the first minute, the KTM doesn´t. You´re sitting more ON the KTM instead of IN the bike. While I always thought, I never want a BMW boxer, this was to be revised by that testride! But finally only a test will bring you clarity.

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Old 07-07-2013, 03:59 PM   #22
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Which 1190, the standard Adventure or the R?
Pete rode the GS, the Triumph and the standard Adventure. He said he was buying the GS.

Then he sat on the R.

The rest, as they say, is history. He loves it more every time he starts it.
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Old 07-07-2013, 04:39 PM   #23
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This.

As Snowy said, I rode the three big all road tourers. Of them the GS was my favourite.
I've owned 5 GS's now. One of them I rode up the Canning Stock Route in Australia.
Anything is doable.

The R though, is different in that it can also be used in dirt without the same drama. This makes it more versatile as an all rounder.
I would suggest most people that buy these big bikes won't go where I want to take the R, so any of the others would be fine.
I'm not like that. I know Snowy is not like that. So we need (want) the best Swiss Army knife out there.
So far, the KTM is is looking like it will be that bike.

As far as comparing it to an F800, that's what we're doing, although to be fair, Snowy's 800 isn't really standard anymore. I think a stock version would have a hard time trying to stay with his in the rough.

After you get back from your trip Snowy, we will see how it goes in the bush.

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Old 07-07-2013, 07:40 PM   #24
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Hey Pete, I am confused about your post.
So, you have owned a 800GS also?? Did you say that you can do more OFFROAD with the 1190R than you did with the R1200GSA and the F800?? Is it that much better than the F800 off road, as far as nimble and agile??
Yes, I do have a R1200GSA
I am just trying to figure out if I should just get the new 2014 800GSA, or wait for the KTM1190 R in KTM, I would only own the R model, not the regular adventure, since going offroad is my new thing... 1200GSA got me started... :)
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:26 PM   #25
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I think an F800 and an 1190R will both go off road better than a 1200GSA.

We will make our minds up in a couple of weeks whether an F800 goes off road better than an 1190R.
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:56 AM   #26
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Can't wait for the report!!
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:07 AM   #27
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:12 AM   #28
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I think an F800 and an 1190R will both go off road better than a 1200GSA.

We will make our minds up in a couple of weeks whether an F800 goes off road better than an 1190R.
All day long....I have owned 2 previous R12 ADV...long distance on the super slab, great!...off road on the logging or fire roads...pigs. You drop an ADV in the woods by yourself...your might be walking out.

Watch this video and tell me an R12ADV would be a fun bike to take in the woods.... I don't think so....in fact I know it would NOT be fun at all, don't ask me how I know... Just an observation.... da lighter the better IMHO. Watch the video and you decide.

http://m.youtube.com/#/user/Motorile...er%2FMotoriley
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Old 07-19-2013, 04:00 PM   #29
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Hold on now, I DO have a 2012 1200ADV, it is a great bike, and I have had great fun with it offroad, in fact I have surprised many guys on smaller bikes, from KTM to KLR on how well I could keep up with them. Everywhere they went, I was right behind them! They can go faster than I can, but that is ok with me, I have them for lunch when on HWY.
I just find myself wanting more offroad, and not taking any long trips as I thought I would, so, a smaller bike would be great... I am basically ready to go get the 2014 800GSA, but the more I read about the 1190R, it seems so close in weight of 800GSA, and lots of extras than 800GSA does not have.... Hate to give up on all of my BMW gear... but, bike is just a toy... want to get the best toy I can get... reguardless of brand.
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Old 07-24-2013, 07:57 PM   #30
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Hey guys, just an update... I have had a heart break test ride with the new 800GSA today. The dealership in Louisville KY were awesome, they let me have the bike, and told me to have some fun with it. Great people! Will give them business when I can.... :)
In any case, I love the 800GSA on the road, lots of power and agile, however offroad and slow riding was disappointing, compared to my 2012 1200GSA. The clutch on 800GSA was harder, the bike was thinner but felt almost as heavy, and the handle bar was narrower. Also did not lack the lack of torque that the 1200GSA has, in slow speed and offroad, means that on 1200GSA you need to rev the bike less and less clutch than the 800GSA. In fact, the bike died on my several times during slow maneuvering offroad, just because I am not use to have to rev/clutch so much....
Too bad, because I was excited about trading for the 800GSA....
So, next spet is wait for the KTM 1190R and the 2014 1200GSA....
Cheers!!
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