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Old 07-16-2013, 06:12 PM   #796
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Just left my local KTM/yamaha/Kawasaki dealership. Dropped my fjr forks off for a rebuild.

Would you believe that, while I was there, they sold me honda parts for my honda that they dont sell but have parts in stock for? After that the mechanic gave me advice on changing a sportster clutch, then had the nerve to let me look at the shop manual for my atv that I'm doing a valve adjustment on soon.

Fork seals needed ordered, but I can hardly blame them since they've never to my knowledge sold an fjr there. Small place.

The nerve of some people.

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Old 07-17-2013, 04:20 AM   #797
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Just left my local KTM/yamaha/Kawasaki dealership. Dropped my fjr forks off for a rebuild.

Would you believe that, while I was there, they sold me honda parts for my honda that they dont sell but have parts in stock for? After that the mechanic gave me advice on changing a sportster clutch, then had the nerve to let me look at the shop manual for my atv that I'm doing a valve adjustment on soon.

Fork seals needed ordered, but I can hardly blame them since they've never to my knowledge sold an fjr there. Small place.

The nerve of some people.

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You have a 1 in 1,000 shop there, if you want them to stay around keep supporting them. I wish there was one of those around here....
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Old 07-17-2013, 04:33 AM   #798
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I'm aware of the alternative sources. Needed a couple of more specialized (but still not totally obscure) parts such as cam cover sealing washers. While I was there, I would've been willing to pay a few $ extra for the convenience of one-stop shopping. As others have said, however, I refuse to pay sky-high prices for someone to order a bunch of parts I can order myself for delivery to my own doorstep.

Local BMW dealer OTOH always has maintenance parts in stock (crush washers, etc.) and often more obscure stuff, doesn't charge an-arm-and-a-leg for them considering they have them handy, and usually provides free advice (where needed) with a smile.

Didn't mean to come across smarmy, if I did.

I haven't found a dealer in a good while that was geared towards, or even knew what to do with, someone that works on their own bikes.

We've "evolved" from an era where it took a couple of weeks or so to order parts, BUT the dealers kept a lot in stock, to where it takes a few days to get parts and they keep virtually NOTHING in stock.
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:11 AM   #799
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You have a 1 in 1,000 shop there, if you want them to stay around keep supporting them. I wish there was one of those around here....
Yeah it's a good place. I go there as much as possible, pretty much everything except tires. They have their problems though for sure. Mainly the salesmen are idiots, but if I do to buy a bike I already know what I want anyways so it doesn't really matter.

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Old 07-18-2013, 04:15 AM   #800
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^^^ What's sad to me is that is noteworthy, versus normal...
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Old 07-18-2013, 04:20 AM   #801
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:04 PM   #802
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...Hire a kid for minimum wage and teach him a skill - tire changing...
^^^ THIS!
(I know... I'm dredging up an old part of the thread. Getting caught up.)

Not only does the customer get his tires done and the dealership make a profit, but the kid gets valuable experience, and the dealership gets a more valuable employee. It's win-win-win all the way around, and is also how many of us got experience in whatever our careers are, before we started making any real money at them.
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:31 PM   #803
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^^^ THIS!
(I know... I'm dredging up an old part of the thread. Getting caught up.)

Not only does the customer get his tires done and the dealership make a profit, but the kid gets valuable experience, and the dealership gets a more valuable employee. It's win-win-win all the way around, and is also how many of us got experience in whatever our careers are, before we started making any real money at them.
....until he scratches the rim on a picky customer's very expensive bike....
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:33 PM   #804
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^^^ THIS!
(I know... I'm dredging up an old part of the thread. Getting caught up.)

Not only does the customer get his tires done and the dealership make a profit, but the kid gets valuable experience, and the dealership gets a more valuable employee. It's win-win-win all the way around, and is also how many of us got experience in whatever our careers are, before we started making any real money at them.
It's an apprenticeship of sorts. You start out in a trade doing the simple things and work up to the more difficult ones, learning as you go. I busted tires and ran the lube rack when I started, and worked up until I had my own stall and hoist and went on commission.
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Old 07-22-2013, 03:37 PM   #805
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Bluhduh work

I started working at 14 to support my motorcycle habit. (and had a M drivers license)
But kids today have parents that "want to give junior what I didn't have", and give the kids NEW cars and all the money they can spend. What they don't give them is a work ethic, and the self esteem that comes from EARNING you own way.
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I started working at 14 to support my motorcycle habit. (and had a M drivers license)
But some kids today have parents that "want to give junior what I didn't have", and give the kids NEW cars and all the money they can spend. What some don't give them is a work ethic, and the self esteem that comes from EARNING you own way.
Fixed.

My kids had to work their asses off, and still do. Most of my HS students had after school, or at least summer, jobs.

My youngest child goes off to college in three weeks, and has made it so that neither of us have to borrow much to help pay his way

Some of the problem lies with businesses that don't want to have apprentices. My father worked for Freightligner for 30 years. He started on the assembly line and ended up as a master machinist. Before he retired he was trying to get them to start an apprenticeship program so kids like he used to be could get a chance in the industry. His plan called for partnering with a local community college. The plant manager loved the idea. The Daimler big-wigs did not. All they wanted to hire were experienced people who had worked at other companies.

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I concede the point, my bad.

My Daughter also started working at twelve (babysitting, then medical billing apprentice later), and got a full ride scholarship in college and is now a math teacher.

My self went 4 years in a five year major, and then went into a community college for tool & die machining which was supported by the local manufacturers. I did a two year program in nine months, and had a job before school ended set-up by my instructor.
I agree, an apprenticeship program in the various trades is very much needed. Many kids don't see where thir classes apply in the real world, but pick-up instruction in practical trades because they can see the real-world benefits.
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Old 07-23-2013, 07:28 AM   #808
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AND: We're heavy on college educated idiots that can't change their own oil. Good vocational schooling should not be seen as second-rate. It often provides more stable careers than a college education. We're having trouble finding techs at the Dodge dealer I work for. Good help is hard to find.


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Old 07-23-2013, 07:37 AM   #809
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I worked with a guy who had a MECHANICAL ENGINEERING degree and could not change his oil or change a wheel (and I don't mean he just didn't do it himself, he really didn't know how.)
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Old 07-23-2013, 07:48 AM   #810
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AND: We're heavy on college educated idiots that can't change their own oil. Good vocational schooling should not be seen as second-rate. It often provides more stable careers than a college education. We're having trouble finding techs at the Dodge dealer I work for. Good help is hard to find.


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Agreed, but not because it may provide a more stable career but because not everyone is the same. There are people with the natural skills and passion to work in vocational trades just like those who work in more professional roles.

When we stop trying to treat everyone like they should all be doctors and lawyers, then we can really make some effective changes to our education system.
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