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Old 07-23-2013, 05:56 AM   #9961
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The Chinese 59-16 light also has an autoloader but the gun is pretty meek.

hope this helps.
Already have the 59-16, agree completely on the "meekness" of the gun. What got me intrigued about the French line was last week when a AMX50 100 took out my Black Prince in relatively short order..
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:14 AM   #9962
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The gun on the AMX 50 100 is:
Damage 180-300 HP
Penetration 128-213 mm
...but it shoots 7.4 rounds per minute (i..e slow reload on the clip)

The American Tier 8 with an autoloader is the T69 - which is a medium. It's gun is:
Damage 113-188 HP
Penetration 131-219 mm
...and it shoots 12.9 rounds per minute.

So with the American tank you have higher penetration with less damage - but you can shoot more often. With the Black Prince, having penetration is important (although those penn numbers are pretty much the same)

Both tanks are pretty squishy and need to be played more as a medium than a "slug it out" heavy like a T34 or Black Prince.

Graham (Dookie Chunkz) has the French Heavy line all the way to Tier X
I have the American equivalents to Tier X as well (on both American Heavy lines).

If you catch us in Team Speak we can start a training room and pull whatever tanks you want to check out and compare.


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Old 07-23-2013, 06:15 AM   #9963
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p.s. regarding the 59-16 - I found it to be a "suffer tank". Once you are finished with it the reward is the WZ131, WZ132 and the Tier X 121.
All 3 are keepers in my garage.

I find the 121 is a bit of an under-appreciated sleeper tank.
Its gun does more damage than an E5 for example (faster firing and more damage per shot).. and its turret is thicker, bouncier, and faster rotating. The tank is faster too (although slower accelerating than the E5 - it accelerates almost identically to the T57). If I'm given the choice to play my 121 or my E5 in a random battle, I'll usually take the 121. Its main draw back is the crappy barrel depression.

ymmv

p.s. Don't judge the line on the 59-16.. press on to the 131. If you don't like the WZ-131 and how it plays.. stop there. The tanks above it are all very similar in play style/handling.

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Old 07-23-2013, 06:49 AM   #9964
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The American Tier 8 with an autoloader is the T69 - which is a medium. It's gun is:
Damage 113-188 HP
Penetration 131-219 mm
...and it shoots 12.9 rounds per minute.
Those are the stats for the base 76mm gun....

The 90mm upgrade gun is 240 avg dmg, 173 avg pen and 7.27 rounds per minute. It has a 4 round magazine and takes approximately 25 seconds to reload that magazine. I'm at something like 24.7 seconds with BIA and fans. The top gun on the 50-100 has more like a 50 second magazine reload.
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Old 07-23-2013, 07:16 AM   #9965
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Thanks for the suggestions/info everyone. Much appreciated.
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Old 07-23-2013, 07:17 AM   #9966
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Thanks for the correction Brian.

The T54E1 reloads in 30 something seconds.
The T57 reloads in 22 seconds

I think I'm likely going to sell the E1 because of this; it is just more fun to play the T57.

With the E1 I've been using its lower Tier gun which is 5 shots instead of 4 and 22 second reload instead of 33 - just to screw with people who assume I have 4 shots
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:22 AM   #9967
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Check this out - Rafiki and I were just in a public battle that had 7 on 7!

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Old 07-23-2013, 08:26 AM   #9968
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Check this out - Rafiki and I were just in a public battle that had 7 on 7!

That's because everyone else is at work.
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:47 AM   #9969
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weirdest game ever.....

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Old 07-23-2013, 09:37 AM   #9970
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:50 AM   #9971
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weirdest game ever.....

I just noticed the chat.

Please do tell more about the mods that I highlighted in green on your picture. Links would be awesome if you have them. They look awesome, especially the minimap.
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:01 AM   #9972
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Frecks: google "roughnecks mods world of tanks"
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:31 AM   #9973
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The value in silver making for the entire game is the Panther/M10. It makes 85% of the silver the top tier-8 premiums make, but costs 45% of what a good tier-8 premium costs. Also, it goes on sale for 1/2 off every 3-4 months. (when it was last on sale a few weeks ago it was $6usd, if you pay using UGC's I got mine for $4usd LoL).
High rate of fire
Reliably pens everything it faces (only tier 7-8)
High mobility
Cheap repairs
Cheap Shell costs

it wont hard-carry wins but it only requires about 1000 damage delt+spotted+tracked to make $40k. 1500 makes roughly $75k income. *extremely* efficient tank to run.
I'm diggin mine so far...

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Old 07-23-2013, 10:36 AM   #9974
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Frecks: google "roughnecks mods world of tanks"
Thank you, good sir!
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Old 07-23-2013, 01:00 PM   #9975
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I installed roughnecks mod pack.....then removed all of it. Too busy for me. and neither of the boys liked it.

I'm sticking with Jimbo's sight and advanced mini map.
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