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Old 07-20-2013, 02:56 AM   #916
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The tech told me the stiction is common to these forks and suggested replacing the seals with one from from HKC, which are apparently very low drag seals. He also thought the springs may be too soft as well.
HKC? Google let me down.
I ended up getting a few sets of the OEM blue seals a while ago, but haven't swapped them in yet. Don't tell me they are sticky junk...
I do still get a little more stiction than I was hoping for.
One day when I feel rich I will buy a fork rebuild kit with all the bushes.
Hope you are having a good time!
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Old 07-20-2013, 08:28 AM   #917
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HKC? Google let me down.
I ended up getting a few sets of the OEM blue seals a while ago, but haven't swapped them in yet. Don't tell me they are sticky junk...
I do still get a little more stiction than I was hoping for.
One day when I feel rich I will buy a fork rebuild kit with all the bushes.
Hope you are having a good time!
Sorry, SFK.

Jenna and others don't have the stiction issues, so I am hoping it is easily solvable!
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Old 07-20-2013, 08:52 AM   #918
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sorry, sfk.
Actually SKF



I just ordered some last night along with a set of bushings and fork oil to rebuild my forks on my next trip up to Seattle. Hopefully that'll give me a good non-stictiony baseline I can start tuning from.
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Old 07-20-2013, 10:02 AM   #919
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Actually SKF



I just ordered some last night along with a set of bushings and fork oil to rebuild my forks on my next trip up to Seattle. Hopefully that'll give me a good non-stictiony baseline I can start tuning from.
As far as i know there are no SKF seals for the WP50 Extreme forks,... which sizes did you order?
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Old 07-20-2013, 10:21 AM   #920
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As far as i know there are no SKF seals for the WP50 Extreme forks,... which sizes did you order?
Sorry, I wasn't clear there. I have WP 4860 USDs.
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Old 07-20-2013, 10:27 AM   #921
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As far as i know there are no SKF seals for the WP50 Extreme forks,... which sizes did you order?
Thats what I said in the other thread Solo Lobo posted in first.

@ Dmaster : Airhead Wrangler has the same 48mm forks I have. So the SKF are no problem for that one.

@ AW Don't order the HD kit !!! They are to tight !!!
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Old 07-20-2013, 10:27 AM   #922
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@ AW Don't order the HD kit !!! They are to tight !!!
What's the HD kit?

I ordered these:

"Fork Bushings for 48mm WP, KTM & Husaberg by Innteck SKF"

and these:

"Fork Seals for 48mm WP, KTM & Husaberg by SKF"

(sorry for the thread noise, solo)
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Old 07-20-2013, 10:34 AM   #923
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What's the HD kit?
In some sizes they make heavy duty kits. Than the dust seal is tighter than the normal kit.
They advice those for wet conditions. But they have more stiction again.
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Old 07-20-2013, 02:43 PM   #924
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Just got home from Salem... the pattering or bouncing I am feeling while riding slab is the forks not moving in reaction to small bumps due to the stiction.

Hyperpro messed with the settings on my Ohlins and I was cruising 70-75mph all the way home with no real headshake issues.

To be clear, Alex from Konflict didn't rebuild my forls nor replace the bushings.

I asked him to inspect the parts and adjust the valving. Clearly there is more work needed.

He did say something about stiction when he gave these back to me, but can't remember what it was...
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:56 PM   #925
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Just caught up with Alex, and he is doing me a big favor by fitting me in next week. My forks will get new seals, wipers, bushs and fluid.

I'll report back one ASAP.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:38 AM   #926
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Hyperpro messed with the settings on my Ohlins and I was cruising 70-75mph all the way home with no real headshake issues.
Any idea what they did? My YSS is 'weavy' on the front end. Especially when there's gear in the panniers.
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:41 AM   #927
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Any idea what they did? My YSS is 'weavy' on the front end. Especially when there's gear in the panniers.
The suspension tech basically grabbed the rear rack while the other guy held the handlebars (so the bike didn't fall over) and moved the rear up and down to demonstrate how much travel was used with just the weight of the bike with panniers (too much) then moved it up and down with light pressure (demonstrating the lack of low speed damping) and the up and down much harder showing the high speed damping was working.

He adjusted the comp and rebound repeating that test until he was happy.

I'm going to re-measure the sag with the panniers on, as I am pretty sure every other time they were off. The add pre-load to adjust back to spec
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Old 07-28-2013, 10:05 AM   #928
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Gotcha... thanks. Nothing like having a hand do that sort of work especially if they know what they're doing. My suspension unladen is butter and very neutral. You can push down and front and back are nicely in sync. Not much for off road.. but the bike isn't used that way as much as it should be.

Laden it's rubbish on the move.
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Old 07-28-2013, 11:52 AM   #929
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Gotcha... thanks. Nothing like having a hand do that sort of work especially if they know what they're doing. My suspension unladen is butter and very neutral. You can push down and front and back are nicely in sync. Not much for off road.. but the bike isn't used that way as much as it should be.

Laden it's rubbish on the move.
I do miss the hydraulix pre-load adjuster that is available on the R100GS Ohlins... that made luggage/no luggage adustments easier.

I think I've seen on offered that may fit my G/S Ohlins and am going to investigate. Anyone esle know?
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Old 07-28-2013, 12:41 PM   #930
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I do miss the hydraulix pre-load adjuster that is available on the R100GS Ohlins... that made luggage/no luggage adustments easier.

I think I've seen on offered that may fit my G/S Ohlins and am going to investigate. Anyone esle know?
If you put one on solo make sure your spring can handle the extra pre-load. !!!
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