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Old 07-29-2013, 12:31 AM   #1411
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I simply could not believe Vettel's whining when he failed to make a late pass on Kimi: "He didn't give me enough room!" No kidding, you spoiled little twat. Man, is he easy to dislike.
Best part, though, was after the race when Seb went to talk about it with Kimi. Kimi's 1st response: laugh

I gotta say that if there were old pitlane speedlimits, Vettel would have stayed in front of Kimi on the last stop. Now he arrived about 3 seconds behind Kimi. With the old, faster speedlimit, pitstops would have been about 4 seconds quicker.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:41 AM   #1412
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Best part, though, was after the race when Seb went to talk about it with Kimi. Kimi's 1st response: laugh
Followed by "it was the heat of the moment." Basically he did say he was off base with the radio call once he settled down.

Was nice to see them all taking and joking around on the podium during the interviews, sometimes the good sportsmanship is missing, and these candid moments are way more interesting than Lee's blather.
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:41 AM   #1413
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I liked the race.... if Grosjean didn't have bad luck, he'd have no luck at all. Good points for the team though. That drive-through was bullshit, even Massa said so (and he was there).

yay Kimi for making Seb whine

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Old 07-29-2013, 10:15 AM   #1414
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That drive-through was bullshit, even Massa said so (and he was there).
Yeah, I agree. Four wheels off the track is a BS call and they're really, really inconsistent with it. I've seen Vettel be more blatant, and on a straight no less, and nobody gave him a drive through. I'd like to see them clean that up.
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:22 AM   #1415
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Grosjean is the Simocelli of F1. He's on double secret probation.

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Old 07-30-2013, 05:28 AM   #1416
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and Ferrari gets a slap on the wrist....

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Fernando Alonso has escaped punishment for using DRS when he wasnt supposed to during the Hungarian Grand Prix.
The stewards found the Ferrari driver activated DRS on three occasions when he was not within a second of another car.
Ferrari were fined 15,000 (12,945) for the infringement.
The stewards ruled: The DRS enabling system was not changed by the team from the pre-race to the race setting. The driver therefore incorrectly received DRS enabled messages and reacted to them (when not entitled to) on three occasions.
As soon as the team became aware of the problem they informed the driver to only use DRS when told to do so by the team.
Whilst a small sporting advantage (less than one second over the entire race) was gained, the team argued car three [Alonso] also suffered a disadvantage by being unable to use DRS on every legitimate occasion.
However, the team is ultimately responsible for ensuring the system conforms to the regulations.
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Old 07-30-2013, 12:05 PM   #1417
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no curry in 2014...

Indian GP organizers confirm no race in 2014

Korean might be the next in line to open up a spot to make room for the already set calendar of 20 races for next year.
Tuesday, July 30, 2013



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July 30th, 2013 (F1plus).- Sometimes, gossip and speculation turn out to become reality. It's been a while since it was reported that few races were on the brink of being ditched to make room for Russia and Austria, and today, Indian Grand Prix organizers confirmed the race will not be held in 2014.
Earlier, F1 chief executive Bernie Ecclestone - under pressure to limit the calendar to a maximum of 20 Grand Prix - admitted the race outside New Delhi is the first to go.
With Russia, Austria and New Jersey all scheduled to join the already 19-strong race calendar, former Indian F1 driver Karun Chandhok admitted: "Bernie is spoiled for choice.
"I think formula one is in demand," added the former HRT driver, whose father Vicky is the Indian motor sport federation boss.
Ecclestone has admitted the government's tax policy is a problem, but the official line is that a scheduling issue has triggered the need for a one-year race sabbatical.
"It (having a 2014 race in October and another early in 2015) was too close," he told the Indo-Asian News Service.
"Therefore, after speaking to promoters, we think it is best not to have a race in 2014 and have one in 2015."
Race organizer Jaypee is now confirming Ecclestone's news.
"If Formula One Management wants us to hold our race in March 2015, we don't have any problem with that," said managing director Sameer Gaur.
Then we go to the issue of another slot needed, and Korea looks set to join India in F1 exile.
And amid reports Ecclestone will drop the Indian grand prix over a tax issue, Germany's Auto Motor und Sport claims the other race unlikely to survive beyond 2013 is Korea.
"Apparently," said correspondent Tobias Gruner, "the organizers have run out of money.
"Ecclestone is well known for having little patience if his fees are not paid."
The AFP news agency also reports that Korea is in doubt, saying the organizer "has lost money since it first hosted formula one in 2010, and local authorities are unwilling to cover losses".
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Old 07-30-2013, 03:09 PM   #1418
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For some reason I thought Korea was already dead.

Alonso not quite his usual professional self after Hungary.

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Gets a spanking from Ferrari. I admire his driving but not his personality. For that reason I wouldn't mind seeing him at Red Bull, where dissension and chaos would be sure to follow.

Meanwhile, Ferrari try to figure out how not to become "Williams but with money." They've churned personnel, James Allison being the latest addition. The constant has been Stefano Domenicali. Maybe he's the problem?
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:51 PM   #1419
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Meanwhile, Ferrari try to figure out how not to become "Williams but with money." They've churned personnel, James Allison being the latest addition. The constant has been Stefano Domenicali. Maybe he's the problem?
Perhaps my memory is faulty, but until the recent Schumacher era, they've always been a team that's punched below their weight at least since the late '70's
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Old 07-30-2013, 05:02 PM   #1420
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Perhaps my memory is faulty, but until the recent Schumacher era, they've always been a team that's punched below their weight at least since the late '70's


Maybe it was during the Schumacher era, but I recall reading that year in, year out Ferrari was always the #1 spender.
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Old 07-30-2013, 07:49 PM   #1421
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Maybe it was during the Schumacher era, but I recall reading that year in, year out Ferrari was always the #1 spender.
These days, that's Red Bull. Might be Mercedes in second.
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:03 PM   #1422
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Perhaps my memory is faulty, but until the recent Schumacher era, they've always been a team that's punched below their weight at least since the late '70's
if they didn't have alonso hustling that pig around they'd be in deep shit.

and don't discount ross brawn during the successful ferrari era.
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Old 07-31-2013, 12:31 AM   #1423
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German magazine Bild reports that Ferrari has made an offer to Kimi. According to them Ferrari's offer is bigger than what Red Bull offered (around 15 million a year, plus bonus and also funding to Kimi's Ice1Racing motocross team).

Summer break - not for journalists
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Old 07-31-2013, 02:13 AM   #1424
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Maybe it was during the Schumacher era, but I recall reading that year in, year out Ferrari was always the #1 spender.
I bet that's been true since Fangio was racing. Their problem has always been return on investment.
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Old 07-31-2013, 02:14 AM   #1425
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German magazine Bild reports that Ferrari has made an offer to Kimi. According to them Ferrari's offer is bigger than what Red Bull offered (around 15 million a year, plus bonus and also funding to Kimi's Ice1Racing motocross team).

Summer break - not for journalists
They probably told Kimi to take it out of the last contract
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