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Old 07-01-2013, 03:47 PM   #16
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Inmates,

The price and the specifications of Mk I are announced on the official website:
Mk I price

The first one hundred units will be individually numbered (numbers and details will be cnc machined) and will have lazer etched details on the aluminium parts. These #100 units will be sold at a 10% discount.

The warranty periods are:
O-rings: guaranteed for life. i.e. If they fail you send us back the damaged ones and we replace the set free of charge.
Motor: 2 years against manufacturing defects.
Magnetic transmission: guaranteed for life (max. working temp 80 deg C).

In case you need more information, please contact us at info@aurora-rally.com or, if you would like to ask more about pre-orders, reserve a unit etc. please send an e-mail to preorder@aurora-rally.com

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Old 07-31-2013, 03:15 AM   #17
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It been a while, we are up and running trying to catch up with racers and racing teams, Serres Rally is round the corner, it has been hectic the last few weeks...
Anyways, we are preparing a series of Lab tests to test Mk I at its limits.
First we had the transmission test, now we uploaded the capacity test. next in the series is the wateproofing, the o-rings, the shell ... We will try and show you how Mk I performs at its limits. Not in the casual trail ride

We got last year's paper rolls from Serres Rally and we loaded the first three days in Mk I. This resulted in a little bit over 50mm in diameter roll (approx. 19 meters in Mk I).
Mk I performed flawlessly both forward and rewind. The Video that you see is the forward version, rewind will be uploaded soon so you can also see how the shafts are changed etc.


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Old 07-31-2013, 06:35 AM   #18
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That's really looking like a polished product D.
In the Australasian Safari we get 2 or 3 scrolls each day and you sometimes have to squeeze in changing scrolls in the 15 minute refuel period. It'll be fantastic to load the whole days set of scrolls in one go the night before.

Question: When removing a scroll, is it possible to pull the paper out manually without using the motor drive? The MD copes with this by slipping on the rubber 'o'rings, which obviously puts strain and heat on those which, over time, makes them a vulnerability. Can you "free-wheel" the Mk I?

Also, can you show us how the lid is fitted, secured and removed? Is the lid the same material (perspex?) as the MDs? It looks like it doesn't have the same complicated profile on the long edges for clipping in place. You have a simpler solution?

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Hi John,

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That's really looking like a polished product D.
Question: When removing a scroll, is it possible to pull the paper out manually without using the motor drive? The MD copes with this by slipping on the rubber 'o'rings, which obviously puts strain and heat on those which, over time, makes them a vulnerability. Can you "free-wheel" the Mk I?
You can free-wheel the same way. BUT! Mk I's o-rings will handle heat much better as the material can withstand higher temperatures than NBR. It behaves completely different from Viton and NBR therefore over time the o-rings will not show this damage.
Mk I's paper shafts are removable. Therefore, you take the cartridge out, swap shafts and off you go. (Of course that means that you have a spare shaft with you, but these will be available to purchase (The version for the AU Safari will have a spare one ). This way you can align the paper perfectly and you do not get anxious to roll the paper during the race. You just replace the shafts.

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Also, can you show us how the lid is fitted, secured and removed? Is the lid the same material (perspex?) as the MDs? It looks like it doesn't have the same complicated profile on the long edges for clipping in place. You have a simpler solution?
Lid is again high impact thermoplastic to match the shell. Solution is simpler and it is designed so that it's difficult to get damaged during a crash. A video will be uploaded soon to show you both the shaft changes, the paper loading and the cover closing system.

One thing we considered a lot during design was the accidents, falls etc. In general the equipment must self protect but if the hit is larger than expected, and it sustains permanent damage, the rider must be able to fix it with tools that he/she has on the bike and some tie wraps. This is how we approached Mk I so that everything can be replaced on the side of the road. Fast and easy. We are preparing a series of Videos with servicing times and techniques for the riders. Watch this space...

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Old 08-28-2013, 09:30 AM   #20
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final product

Hy guys,

can't see your final product on you hp. ?
Could you please post some pictures from the latest final road book version, videos and pictures on your hp didn't show up the final product from all sides ?

Thanks and good luck


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Hi Michele,

I am very sorry about the slow update, last week has been hectic. I know a lot of people are waiting for this thing to happen so I would like to apologise for the delays, but final polishing of the product took a little longer than expected.

We are trying our best to get this product to the market but if it does not pass our quality standards we will just keep going back to the drawing board, come up with solutions, try them and proceed. We want something that will be as innovative as it will get these days and believe it when I say it that these little things can really give you a headache sometimes...

Well here is were we stand at the moment. Each unit is assembled and manufactured to order due to the nature of this thing. I just don't have the same quality standards as others, so I want to assemble it myself and inspect it myself.

Below I will give you all the info you asked for so that you understand the unique nature of this product.

So !

Everything is threadlocked to make sure that bolts will stay where they should be for the rest of Mk I's life. Running 640 Adv makes me a little bit nervous when it comes to vibrations...



Using the proper tools to tighten the bolts and measure the output torque of the magnetic coupling is always a good idea so a torque screwdriver is on the tool list !



Each single Mk I is assembled by myself and another colleague to make sure we get the quality that we want to pass to the users. Every single part in Mk I is designed to get the maximum performance. In every aspect, rally use, crash performance, night riding, functionality.





Now, you asked for some product photos, so here we are...

This is the unit inside its box.

Notice the special o-rings that close the cover. This is how the cover is secured and it is watertight as Ethylene-vinyl acetate rubber (known as EVA rubber) is present in all the crucial areas. These o-rings are made out of special material and they have UV protection so they will not show the detrimental ageing effects that you see on rubber o-rings after prolonged use in sunny conditions. Of course if you live in the UK sun is no problem...

And this is the unit outside of the box...


Here is the front of the unit.

You can see the special 3M antiglare membrane which also protects the cover from scratches. Final versions may have a cover made from special antiglare thermoplastic.

Below you can see the rear of the unit. The o-rings are held in place so that you do not loose them when the unit is open. These are very (and I mean very ) difficult to break. We decided to put them on top of the cover so that in the unlikely event of a side impact the closing system stays intact. You have to hit the RB from the top to damage them but then again you would have other problems to solve before using the roadbook...


On the right side of the unit (looking from top) there are two metallic cable glands.

Both have high quality M8 circular connectors. One goes to the bike's battery and gives life to Mk I. The second is attached to the switch (4 pins for a DPDT toggle switch). If you have different configurations then you can modify the cables but we opted for the solution that the current flows into the device and it is distributed to where it should go from our own cabling.

We found that the roll tightness is heavily dependant on how much the user tights the scroll onto the shafts. If the paper is ''fluffy'' then the paper rubs onto the cover and it does not stay down. We are using a special plastic to hold the paper down which makes the operation very, very smooth. This can be removed, it can be cleaned and it can be replaced.




Finally to spice things up we added the following tool.
In the event of a crash, Mk I may sustain permanent deformation. This will effect the operation of Mk I. There is a specific air gap between the magnets to make sure the appropriate torque is transmitted. This gap can be checked with this tool just by sliding it between the magnetic pulleys. You check that everything is ok once in a while and if not you can contact us to guide you through a series of steps to solve the problem even if the unit has suffered a permanent damage after a crash.

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Old 08-28-2013, 03:32 PM   #22
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Just to add to what extent we are testing Mk I I would like to present you the following Video and pics.
Not that anybody will try to navigate below sea level but it is a feature that will protect all the parts inside Mk I not only from water, but from sand as well. I know that this is an extreme case. But that is what Mk I will cope with. All the extremes. Somebody drops the bike into a river and it stays there, let us suppose for a minute. The roadbook of course will not be the only problem, but I would hate to manage to start the bike and then find myself without a paper roll.
There are other tests that we will upload soon, one is the freezer test. The roadbook is put in a freezer at -14 deg C and then we roll a 50mm scroll. The other will be the oposite. Leave half a day, during the day (I mean during the highest temps) to achieve +50 degrees C and then ask Mk I to roll a 50mm scroll. The one that you have seen (the one that is in the video with the 3 days of Serres Rally 2012) has passed both these tests without a single fault.










These static pics do not do full justice of what we are up to so do watch the video below...



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Old 08-29-2013, 05:03 AM   #23
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That is AWESOME!!!

Unbelievable that someone hasn't thought of making the RBs robust and waterproof before now. Every year we see Dakar footage of people falling over in river crossings and it's always worried me how you then navigate the rest of the day when your paper scroll instructions are drowned. Have you ever seen the mess water makes of highlighter on paper when wet? How about the strength of paper after it's been wet? I'm almost looking forward to falling over in a river in the Dakar with my Aurora Mark1.

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Old 08-29-2013, 09:16 PM   #24
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Great freaking work Dimitri!

Innovative design,

Incredible attention to detail,

Thorough testing,

This is the future!
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Old 09-15-2013, 04:18 PM   #25
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Heya Paul

The testing, among others, I have to give credit to you as I still remember that poor HDB tower that was getting beat with the hammer...

Now, the good news

John received Mark1 and he installed it yesterday on his KTM 450 RFR. We will see this unit to the start line of the Australasian Safari 2013 on Friday. Thumbs up to John who installed the unit in such a sort time prior to the race . Then on the 27th we will see again this unit on the finish line and in between we will be following John's race as he is a man on a mission (The Dakar Challenge takes place in the Safari and it is a big opportunity for Dakar 2014).

John will also be using some datalogging equipment , something that has never been done before in this field. We will be gathering data from two dataloggers placed on John's navigation tower. A 3-axis accelerometer to measure g-forces during the Rally and a thermometer to measure the temperatures that the equipment is exposed to. These data will be logged by John and then we will use them to improve our equipment. By gathering data all over the world we will have just enough information to know the extremes (falls, crashes, global max and min temps etc) so that we improve the materials, the strength etc.

Installation details and photos are on the link provided at the end of this post but to give you an idea...





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Old 09-16-2013, 03:05 AM   #26
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I read this question on Johns thread. How does the unit work without the one way clutch bearings that are found in the F2R unit? Does it slip on the o-rings? or are there bearings/clutches that I cannot see?

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I read this question on Johns thread. How does the unit work without the one way clutch bearings that are found in the F2R unit? Does it slip on the o-rings? or are there bearings/clutches that I cannot see?

Looks nice!!!!
Hi Matt,

Two small pulleys are attached to the motor shaft. From John's photo these pulleys are barely visible. These pulleys have one way needle clutch bearings attached to them. .
These, small pulleys, are connected via the special o-rings to the large, magnetic pulleys. One way motion is achieved by the clutch bearings. There are other, mechanical, ways to achieve one way motion without the bearings but they are more complicated and more expensive.

We will be doing some R&D into replacing both the one way bearings and the o-rings in the future with... ehm.... shhhhh.....
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Old 09-20-2013, 11:11 PM   #28
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Awesome design, very slick
On my shopping list for sure.
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Hey DRjoe, we appreciate the comments,

As most of the rally inmates probably know, JayBo crashed in the 2nd day of the Australasian Safari and he withdrew. I would like to personally wish him a full and speedy recovery. Dakar is just round the corner, but I think he will heal fast and be ok in time.

We got some serious feedback from John, we have the data from the digital temp and 3-axis accelerometer. There are no issues regarding the operation of Mk1 and that is a very good point for us at present. The internal was kept clear from the sand. At some point I will post photos of the shell to show the internals after a couple of days in the sand and dust.

We are really busy preparing the new website and I will take you through of what is going to happen in the next couple of weeks.

Our new website is here >> Aurora-Rally

It will automatically clear the cache so that you get the new things every time, let us know if you still going through old pages. They exist only in your computer
It is a big improvement over the previous one, we updated it based on the questions that we get through e-mails and through Facebook communication. It is easier now for the reader to understand the technology behind the scenes.

The main changes are:
A new page which explains the differences ((link: Why Mk1)) and a new page which visually shows the main advantages of Mk1 (link: Main Differences) . In general the layout is easier to navigate and there are some more tabs added to spice things up.

More products and collaborations will be announced soon. We have a couple of new innovative ideas and the nav tower section will get a new look during the week.

We have some more, very interesting international and national, riders on board and we are preparing their towers as we speak (well.. actually not at the same time... ) . We also got the data from JayBo's dataloggers. I will post soon graphs with the results, (both here and in the website) but to give you an idea, there is a spike in the data which is approx 11g ! ...

One thing that we would like to point out, since we have started this venture to move things forward and not to clone ideas that already exist ,
Aurora's equipment revisions will be completely different from what you have seen. We will not create an Mk2 and force people to change roadbooks, back plates etc. We will go for Mk1.1, Mk1.2 etc. People will be able to upgrade their original Mk1 with the new parts. Being designed the way it is, people will be able to upgrade transmission, cartridge, shell, bearings, cover. Until we run out of options we will keep updating the current design. And because we embedded this thought when we started the design it is very easy to change and upgrade parts. This is as futureproof as it will ever get. You will get a certificate with the upgraded parts so when, if you decide to sell it the buyer knows that this has been upgraded.

It will be our philosophy throughout the life of the company. Our new products, which will be announced soon, will have the same exact features as the ones I described above. We will have modular switches and modular towers. Therefore people will not have to buy the full Monty in the beginning. They buy the basic layout and then add more things. Antennae plates, toggle plates, main back plates etc More expensive to manufacture? Yes. But futureproof and that what we have been asked by lots of riders during our initial development. It makes the design more challenging, but that is why we are here

Follow us for the news during next week...
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Here we are with the crash test,

It shows the material behaviour, at least what you would expect to happen in a medium size impact. Both the CF mixed weave and the Mk1 shell are flexible and this can be seen from the high speed video. May be with different resins and CF combinations somebody else can achieve a better result but we think that once the resing cracks, the part needs to be replaced immediately. Therefore for us is a no go as far as production is concerned.

We know that the more flexible a part is, the more energy it absorbs and the more likely it is to spring back and survive. And this can be seen on the Video. The aluminium has no spring back at all (the weight does no bounce back) and it takes all the energy of the impact. The question is, can the internals of Mk1 get damaged? Of course. We are not using Adamantium (yet ). But since the internals have a free, axial, play, they have some room for moving around as we saw in the transmission test video. Then, if the impact exceeds Mk1's abilities, the inner cartridge can be replaced without the need to use any tools. The key point here is that every single part will be available as a spare part.

A! The video...

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