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Old 04-01-2013, 06:54 PM   #181
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No it wasn't. Plaka's math was bad. Two liters is a bit over a half gallon. 20-25 miles on 2 L is around 40-50 mpg.
Plakas math was not bad. Post was edited, read the quotes.
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Old 04-01-2013, 07:04 PM   #182
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Either way, a damn long distance to push a bike. (of course, they are lighter and so easier to push when out of gas)
What I was thinking was, how close do you tend to cut it and how much extended range do you want to be worth carrying fuel...and then how much fuel.


One time on a road trip I had planned my first gas stop at a crossroads station I new about out in Flattin Rabbit Nebraska or somplace. It was close to my maximum range on a 6 gallon tank. It's rolling country and as I get close I see this smoke column from over a hill. I crest the hill and there my station, still smoking and nobody around. Burned out motorhome in what was left of a gas bay. Sombody didn't turn a pilot light off. I usually don't worry about gas on the road, hard to go 50 miles without a station. Except this route and running out to my max range. I made it to the next station running on fumes and entreaties to Allah. Now I have a little over 8 gallons in 3 onboard tanks...and a liter for the stove if I need it. 375-400 mile range. Mostly I use the range to buy cheap gas and skip the expensive places before the next cheap gas.
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Old 04-01-2013, 07:47 PM   #183
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Plakas math was not bad. Post was edited, read the quotes.
Whoops! My mistake.
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:56 PM   #184
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two 30 floz MSR on each side along with 1 gal jug
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Old 05-02-2013, 06:52 PM   #185
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two 30 floz MSR on each side along with 1 gal jug
Where's the jug?
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Old 06-28-2013, 02:07 PM   #186
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Interesting

sorry no pic, or actual guy in the ground intell with field data.
Currently do not own a DS bike.

I'm looking at my options with the Mighty DR 3.4 gallon tank.
I have her range around 153-204 miles. This is fine for communiting, and with the stock seat, I'd be looking for reasons to stop.

I'll be east of the Mississippi and below the Mason-Dixon Line the vast majority of the time, so unlike the Outback of OZ, I do not need much fuel range.

I've looked at both the 4.9 IMS and the 5.3 A tank.
The ranges seem solid: 4.9: 220-294 miles, and 5.3: 238 miles- 318 miles.


When I go tour, I think I'll go with the 2 gallon Roto-pax and have her filled at all times. The stock tank would have me looking for gas stations more than the views.
I'd like to store the single unit lower than the seat, so I may have to go with two 1 gallon containers on the sides. This would of course keep the center of gravity lower. this would cut down on luggage capacity in the rear, but I could fit some storwage containers on the tank so as to break the wind during the winter, but take them off during the hot summer.

I also like the roto-pax because you can be the hero of the day for someone out of gas off the road. But, one must be careful of the ambush.
One could top off your tank and leave the roto-pax at the camp sight and not have the extra weight of the larger tanks. Granted, the IMS tanks are plastic, so they are most likely lighter than the stock tank. So maybe a negative.
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I may have to go with the holigan plastic bottles for the nomad areas of the West and Alaska. This would be extermely rare and dangerous, and as soon as the milage has tricked off on say a litter (.25 gallson/12.5 miles) i'd take a stop and top off the tank.

I'm kind of disapointed in the larger fuel tanks. Seems like not all of the juice can be used, and a lot of extra work is involved for the cost, but the tank does expand. I guess, the stock tank is the same, except it does not expand.
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Quick question. Can one purchase Roto-pax at Walmart or Sams, or other such stores?
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Excellent topic.
I guess Pioneers had the same discussion about how much feed and water they would bring for their wagon team. Espically in the desert west of the Rockies.
I need to research hot spots in the lower 48 and Alaska that have have little gasoline stations. I was talking to a 1st generation KLR owner (in the Dalles, OR) and he reported that N.E. OR is kind of sparse.

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Old 06-28-2013, 08:46 PM   #187
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Rotopax


I rode this bike at the first of the month. You could not tell the Rotopax was there in either balance or appearance. The black blends nicely with the seat.
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Old 07-30-2013, 12:55 PM   #188
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1 gal rotopax cans...







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Old 07-30-2013, 06:20 PM   #189
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Sweet.I am looking at carrying two of those myself.What rear tire is that?

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Old 07-31-2013, 10:13 AM   #190
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Sweet.I am looking at carrying two of those myself.What rear tire is that?

Not my bike, but I think it is a Heidenau K60

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Old 07-31-2013, 12:57 PM   #191
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Yes, K60. The 150 r17. TKC on the front.

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Old 07-31-2013, 01:35 PM   #192
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Not my bike, but I think it is a Heidenau K60

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Yes, K60. The 150 r17. TKC on the front.

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Old 08-01-2013, 07:35 AM   #193
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I figured I might as well throw it out there....

Here is a system that give you a modular mount for a 2 liter fuel bottle:

SW-MOTECH Quick-Lock Base Plate - Mounts to any flat surface and gives you the ability to remove the holder from your case when not in use.



SW-Motech Quick-Lock Fuel Canister Accessory Mount For TraX Alu-BOX Cases

- Includes everything in this picture plus a pouring spout.

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  2. Fuel Bottle and Carrier
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Old 08-01-2013, 12:50 PM   #194
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I figured I might as well throw it out there....

Here is a system that give you a modular mount for a 2 liter fuel bottle:

SW-MOTECH Quick-Lock Base Plate - Mounts to any flat surface and gives you the ability to remove the holder from your case when not in use.



SW-Motech Quick-Lock Fuel Canister Accessory Mount For TraX Alu-BOX Cases

- Includes everything in this picture plus a pouring spout.

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  2. Fuel Bottle and Carrier
So that would be about $250 to carry slightly less than 1 extra gallon of gas?

I'll go the cheap route and just have regular 5 gallon cans air dropped ahead.
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Old 09-15-2013, 01:32 PM   #195
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Picked up a cheap Tank bag from cycle gear..



Inside; a plate to hold a couple MSR gas bottles..shelf lining to prevent sliding, 2" straps and rubber bungees on the top, hold everything super solid, and room for tubes, tools etc.





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