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Old 08-12-2013, 04:27 PM   #16
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Runs like a stabbed rat!
07 990 with akra pipes no 02 sensors
Only getting low 30's MPG am looking into a custom map or something? CPR do you have any 07 maps coming?
Seams to work better with the o2s on for me im still getting mid to high 30s from 39-41 stock and way more power
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Old 08-12-2013, 05:46 PM   #17
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Spencer, what pipe setup and map are you running with the Rottweiller?

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Old 08-12-2013, 07:00 PM   #18
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07 990 with akra pipes no 02 sensors
Only getting low 30's MPG am looking into a custom map or something? CPR do you have any 07 maps coming?

We are kind of at the mercy of what we can get a hold of and from who. Some maps like 2012 Adventure R, 2008 SD and 2010 RC8 are our shop bikes but we can't really have something for all years. Admittedly, we are still trying to get good intel on what changed with KTM in the computer between 07 and 08. Bottom line is, percentage values are percentage values, and if a file we have, say Tune ECU of a certain year won't load, or the file you want is only offered in Power Commander, it is possible, (but tedious) to convert the values by hand square by square. See our post today on that here: (Post 3154) http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...5#post22084125

Akropovich offers about 1 map per bike and we already have more than that so as far as standards go, we are ahead of the game but would certainly like more. If there are any Rottweiler users out there that would like to donate a map that is good that we don't have, we will send you a free Rottweiler T Shirt to say thanks. We want to build up the Rottweiler community pool of info and make this a team effort if we can with a cool reward.

What do you guys think?
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:43 PM   #19
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Spencer, what pipe setup and map are you running with the Rottweiller?

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2-1 exhaust wings NOS no Baffle. Using the Akro Ti slip on tune straight from the Tune ECU site Canistorectomy done SAI turned off o2 sensors on. CPR intake with filter skin and super duke trumpets. Fresh fuel filters and injectors haven't had an issue. Has a bit of a rpm transition around 3500 buy off road is usually doesn't go below 4 or 5 so I have to to and look for the issue to notice.

I have tried several other tunes but haven't had any success to any great extent. for me this seams to work the best everywhere i have taken the bike (sea level to 6000ft) no coughs studders or issues to speak of with a minimal loss of MPG. As mentioned before I was getting 39-41 I now get 37-39.

I will say with the stock mapp once I started the bike the exhaust almost instantly started glowing red I had been messing with the bike for other issues so I had tried 100 different mapps and adjustments in the midset I put the CPR on since the bike was down. Once all the issues were fixed (not related to intake) from the bad batch of fuel I got I put everything back to almost stock (no SAI or canistor). Once he bike fired as mentioned previously it went straight to Chernobyl mode, I had to switch to the Akro Ti slip on map left o2 sensors on (read that in a previous post on here some where) and with this set up the bike has never run better.

Use to be in 2nd gear roll on throttle the front end would loft slightly maybe carry it for a bit now roll on 2nd gear the bike will flip over if your no careful. I know its not a real scientific or perfect output comparison but the increase in HP is vary noticeable. Actually the bike runs smoother and crisper then before with the previous set up, 2-1 fmf Q stock intake and OE map or modified map o2 on or off SAI on or off akro map or tweaked never seamed right this does


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Old 08-12-2013, 08:15 PM   #20
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I need the resister plug for canostraphy

Im doing the filter and the canostraphy but I cant find the plug with the resister in it where can I get this plug
so the FI light wont come on.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:18 PM   #21
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Thanks man!! That is near my setup (2 into 1 FMF with SA) and I believe I will start with your map and settings and try some customization with the Tune ECU. If I come up with anything useful, I will share...
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:45 PM   #22
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Im doing the filter and the canostraphy but I cant find the plug with the resister in it where can I get this plug
so the FI light wont come on.
A 1000 ohm 1/4 watt resistor is commonly used and available at electronics stores (Radio Shack). Remove the plug from the removed SAS valve and cut one of the wires 1" (25 mm) from the back of the plug and the other about 2 so they are staggered. Solder the ends of the resistor to each wire keeping the ends of the resistor longitudinal with the wires so that they are in a tight package that you can slide a piece of heat shrink over. Shrink the shrink and plug it in. No FI light.
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Old 08-13-2013, 05:41 AM   #23
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Right, I know that the R designates chassis and a few other minor differences but until 2011 or 2012, the R also offered more power over the standard 990 until such time that KTM uprated the standard 990 to match the R.

What I am hoping to find out is if anyone with either any year R or any standard / Baja 990 owners (with exhaust) are using this intake system with the KTM Akrapovic map.

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FYI, the newer Adventure "R" engine does not contain anything different power wise than another Adventure, Baja or otherwise. The "R" designates the chassis differences. It's not like the "R" model SD that has different cams and such so maps are just fine.



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Old 08-13-2013, 05:45 AM   #24
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Ugh, never mind...I won't be happy until I have a custom tune with dual maps for power / highway economy so I will just order one of your filter kits, get my Bazzaz and get a dyno tune done right by my local tuner (who admittedly prefers Powercommander but PC-V only lists the KTM 990 through 2011 for some reason).


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Right, I know that the R designates chassis and a few other minor differences but until 2011 or 2012, the R also offered more power over the standard 990 until such time that KTM uprated the standard 990 to match the R.

What I am hoping to find out is if anyone with either any year R or any standard / Baja 990 owners (with exhaust) are using this intake system with the KTM Akrapovic map.
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:55 AM   #25
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Power Commander has a great product but they need to fire the guy in charge of updating their site info. Whoever that is has cost them allot of money. They do have units for 2012 990 ADV (we use one) and other models not listed. They also claim that they only have a single wideband Auto Tune for KTM Big Twins which ironically is not proper as the cylinders need to be tuned separately. This is also not the case as we have been running a dual wideband for over one year. The technition I called thought that the PCV for KTMs would not accept dual band in the set up menu but it does and works phenomenally.

Long story short, if PC doesn't show your bike model or year, just call them. The Auto Tune modules are generic (not bike specific as they contain no maps) and the dual band WILL work with the PCV despite what the guy on the phone tells you. The part number is AT-300. When you enable it in the PCV software just choose "dual band" for the Auto Tune and there you go.

We have been begging Dyno Jet (PCV) to get accurate info on their site because we get allot of phone calls complaining they don't have a module for them. They most likely do.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:00 AM   #26
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Pc only does the newer 990 in the V because there is an ECU and wiring harness change. They don't want to put the R&D for the outdated ECU's. If you get a Bazazz there is no need to Go to a dyno unless your looking for thatlast 1/2 HP. I cangive you Air/Fuel ratios to input. Do you have oxygenated gas up here( I'm at Mosport testing all week)? Flying out of Tronto on Sunday. Maybe we can get together and Ivan give you a basic run down.


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Ugh, never mind...I won't be happy until I have a custom tune with dual maps for power / highway economy so I will just order one of your filter kits, get my Bazzaz and get a dyno tune done right by my local tuner (who admittedly prefers Powercommander but PC-V only lists the KTM 990 through 2011 for some reason).
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:55 PM   #27
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Fired mine up today with my new CPR Rott (with red pre-filter) (2 into 1 Remus no baffle, although I may need it back in as I am kinda thinking stealthy is the new black)and Akro map loaded. Did the 15 minute mystical reset and spun it around the block. It feels pig rich and smells it too. I heard the comments about the very lean condition of the stock map (makes sense, KTM leaned it out for emissions I am sure) so I decided on the Akro right away. It looks like the only difference between the mapos is the fueling...since one map seems too lean and the other (at least in my case) too rich...it seems I could try to determine an average of the difference of the cell values and maybe use the percentage change function to increase of decrease one of the maps.

Does that make sense to anyone but me?
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Old 08-13-2013, 02:05 PM   #28
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Fired mine up today with my new CPR Rott (with red pre-filter) (2 into 1 Remus no baffle, although I may need it back in as I am kinda thinking stealthy is the new black)and Akro map loaded. Did the 15 minute mystical reset and spun it around the block. It feels pig rich and smells it too. I heard the comments about the very lean condition of the stock map (makes sense, KTM leaned it out for emissions I am sure) so I decided on the Akro right away. It looks like the only difference between the mapos is the fueling...since one map seems too lean and the other (at least in my case) too rich...it seems I could try to determine an average of the difference of the cell values and maybe use the percentage change function to increase of decrease one of the maps.

Does that make sense to anyone but me?
Did you turn the 02 sensors back on? or leave them off
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Old 08-13-2013, 02:14 PM   #29
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Did you turn the 02 sensors back on? or leave them off
On, but I think the algorithm is longer term than my loop around the block, so maybe it would sort itself out, but I'd like to start closer to the finished product.
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Old 08-13-2013, 02:32 PM   #30
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Who has used the Rottweiler air cleaner on their 990 Pros and cons please
Back to the OP....The Rottweiler Intake is a great system. I installed it on my 2013 Baja and it completely changed the bike for the better. There is a noticeable difference in power and ride-ability.

I am running the FMF Q4.1 pipes and the CPR intake (Grey Pre Filter) with the CPR (2 into 1) map.

I'd highly recommend this intake to anyone with a 990.
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