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Old 08-16-2013, 02:46 AM   #16
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And no, you cannot search my vehicle. Period. 4th amendment and all that. Get a warrant. I never carry anything I need to worry about, but that doesn't change the law.
SCOTUS says differently. Vehicle searches need PC but not a warrant in many cases.
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:15 AM   #17
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I keep my license, registration and ins. card all together in my wallet.....along with my concealed weapon permit. I would give all of that to the officer when asked. Cops like organization. The concealed weapon permit tells them that I'm not a criminal/badass, which tends to put them at ease. If I'm carrying a weapon, they might ask me to surrender it, which I'd gladly do. I have gray hair and am usually ATGATT, which tells them I'm a responsible rider on a well maintained bike. All of this makes a subliminal impression. If I wasn't pulled over for doing something really stupid and/or endangering others, chances are I'll get a warning, if that. If I was just speeding, even close to twice the posted limit, depending on the conditions, I might still get off; which is unlikely because my bike won't go twice the posted limit on most highways. However, this approach has worked well for a good friend of mine who is my age, an iron butt rider and who speeds a lot sometimes close to twice the posted limit. He often rides in Utah, Colorado, AZ, and seeks out twisty, curvy stretches of beautiful, lightly traveled highways. My friend often gets stopped, but very rarely get a citation. Of course, there was this one time when he got two warnings in the same state; when he got pulled over the third time, the officer cited him, after checking and finding that he'd received two warnings previously the same day
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Old 08-16-2013, 07:23 AM   #18
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I keep my license, registration and ins. card all together in my wallet.....along with my concealed weapon permit. I would give all of that to the officer when asked. Cops like organization. The concealed weapon permit tells them that I'm not a criminal/badass, which tends to put them at ease. If I'm carrying a weapon, they might ask me to surrender it, which I'd gladly do. I have gray hair and am usually ATGATT, which tells them I'm a responsible rider on a well maintained bike. All of this makes a subliminal impression. If I wasn't pulled over for doing something really stupid and/or endangering others, chances are I'll get a warning, if that. If I was just speeding, even close to twice the posted limit, depending on the conditions, I might still get off; which is unlikely because my bike won't go twice the posted limit on most highways. However, this approach has worked well for a good friend of mine who is my age, an iron butt rider and who speeds a lot sometimes close to twice the posted limit. He often rides in Utah, Colorado, AZ, and seeks out twisty, curvy stretches of beautiful, lightly traveled highways. My friend often gets stopped, but very rarely get a citation. Of course, there was this one time when he got two warnings in the same state; when he got pulled over the third time, the officer cited him, after checking and finding that he'd received two warnings previously the same day
Yeah, well, Ted Bundy acted like The Perfect Gentleman and was Every Mother's Favorite Son.
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:54 AM   #19
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I've been pulled over twice in recent years. Both times riding a MZ 660 Supermoto. The first time I was drag racing a chevy in Front Royal VA. About the time I hit 3rd gear I saw the blue flashing lights. I immediately pulled over, got off the bike and removed my helmet. He rolled up, got out and walked up to me. He asked if I was racing and I said;" This is a freakin' dirtbike, man..."

He looked it over walked away without a word. I have grey hair too, but I think the dirtbike look of a supermoto helped. I had that chevy smoked, though.

The second time I was on the twisties in New Hampshire. I had just passed a group of Harleys and was hooking along working the top two gears. I crested a hill that dropped down a long straight to a little berg. I rolled off and enjoyed the sweet sound of my M4 exhaust belching great music as the bike came down from speed with the throttle closed.

About half way down that hill the blue lights came on and I pulled over at the bottom entering the town. I gave him the "dirtbike" routine too. He bought it but then ran my plate, which was expired Washington DC. I tried to explain about a mixup, but he called his tow truck buddy...

The tow truck shows up and loaded me. The cop tells me to pay him and tells him to drop me at the Mass border. 45 minutes and $100 cash later I was back on a MA road on my way home.

I loved that big thumper. It had a piston the size of a coffee can and was good for a 12 second quarter mile.
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:11 AM   #20
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I just turn the bike off....put the side stand down and wait...have never been told to remove my helmet or get off the bike. I'm polite admit to nothing but play dumb....I don't make excuses for whatever it is I allegedly did..Act like your in a good mood even if you're not....

This method has gotten me out of many tickets....out of the last 5 times I've been pulled over the worst thing I got was a written warning....And the last one I did something monumentally stupid and should have gotten a whopper of a ticket....just a got a lecture....
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:22 AM   #21
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In the uk best thing to do is stop and get off the bike so they know you won't ride off. Then helmet off so if you have you your licences in your pocket you can show it (you don't have to carry it If you don't wont to)

Only been stopped in my old van I stop go out and ask the cop if he wanted to see my paper work they my not as it all on a computer any way. They off I went.
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:16 AM   #22
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I get pulled over about once a year. Amazingly I have never been ticketed. This is my last encounter- for lane splitting in stop-and-go traffic.


traffic stop by dm_516caad2a49ea
This time I didn't even have a chance to come-up with an excuse. I think the only phrase I said was that I needed to take the seat off to access my insurance and registration cards.

I have a tip on speed trap avoidance- most of the times they are set up soon after a speed limit sign.
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:30 AM   #23
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As soon as the cop walks up to me I yell "I'm taking my wife to the hospital she's going to have a ...Oh My God, where is she? She fell OFF! I gotta go look for her!"

Or more like this:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=876754
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:55 AM   #24
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For me: pull over, side stand down, engine off, remove helmet and gloves, then wait for the officer. Showing some grey hair seems to help. Having a license plate that reads GRAMMPA apparently helps as well. Nothing but warnings ever since I got that plate - I've been stopped on three different bikes that I've had that plate on.

But, learning how to not get pulled over in the first place seems to make the biggest difference. Go fast in the corners, not so much on the straights.

Now, where's that old-guy smiley?
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Old 08-16-2013, 11:03 AM   #25
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Here in Phuket if i come to a police checkpoint I tend to look the other way and continue on my merry way. If they jump out in front of me I stop abruptly and whip out mu driving licence. flash it, and am sent on my way fairly quickly.

In the west I stop and say "What's the problem, young man." They have no reason to pull me over; it is just hassling.
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Old 08-16-2013, 01:27 PM   #26
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I like to shut the bike off and take my hands off the bars so the guy doesn't think I'm gonna take off as soon as he gets out of the car.

Other than that I sit there and wait for further instructions.

Last time I got pulled over, the cop doorjambed a cyclist riding by the patrol car as he was getting out to approach my bike. What a shitshow.
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Old 08-16-2013, 03:46 PM   #27
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Yeah, well, Ted Bundy acted like The Perfect Gentleman and was Every Mother's Favorite Son.
Aww man, what do you know about Ted Bundy? Are you French, or are you just makin a load of money working over there? LOL
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Old 08-16-2013, 04:00 PM   #28
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Aww man, what do you know about Ted Bundy? Are you French, or are you just makin a load of money working over there? LOL
All I know about Ted Bundy is what his last job was: A Conductor.........
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:47 PM   #29
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My routine is pull over in a safe location that lends itself to relaxed conversation, bike engine off, helmet and gloves off. I remove my earplugs so I can hear and not misinterpret any instructions from him. Always wait until he gets to me and tell him before I search through pockets or tankbag for license, registration etc.

I wrote an article on this topic for a motorcycle magazine a couple years ago. In doing the research I talked to several police agencies across the country and got conflicting opinions. For example, some don't want the helmet taken off as they feel it could be a potential weapon by swinging it at the officer. My feeling is by the time I could swing a Shoei Neotec he could drive to the next county for backup. Maybe its possible to swing one of those eggshell beanies but it would probably shatter on impact. I'd rather have my helmet off to get the earplugs removed to hear. Another odd response I got was some felt it better to instruct the rider to dismount off the right side of the bike. This alone could be a challenge for some newer riders.

Grey hair, respect, and manners are all great advice.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:11 AM   #30
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It's always a bit scary to read about your cops. Here in good old Europe I get off the bike, take off my helmet and don't have to worry about where my hands are or in what pocket I will reach at the next moment.
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