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Old 08-17-2013, 01:22 AM   #31
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Another odd response I got was some felt it better to instruct the rider to dismount off the right side of the bike. This alone could be a challenge for some newer riders.

Grey hair, respect, and manners are all great advice.[/QUOTE]

If I get of my bike on the right side I then can't put my bike on it side stand or centre stand.

I would always stop and get off and then stand beside my bike and take off my glove and helmet so they can check if I my photo is right.

If I was on holiday in the USA I would just get off and then shout don't shoot I don't have a weapon or just lie on the ground and hope they don't shot me
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Old 08-17-2013, 05:46 AM   #32
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You start yelling, "Why you pigs hassling me, man". That always keeps things interesting.

True story. Years ago, Monterey, CA, I'm riding with "Club Cafe of the Monterey Peninsula", really, no joke. About 7 of us, I'm in the back. We're coming down a main road, and the light changes as the lead guy is getting to it (he's on an obnoxiously loud BMW toaster tank), and of course, the rest of us blow through the light. And get pulled by Monterey PD. Well, BMW guh jumps off, and immediately starts in with the "Why you pigs always hassling us....". Checks our IDs, and big mouth toaster guy gets a ticket for noise, blowing the light, no turn signals and everything else he could find. The rest of us got let off.

Actually, don't say that to them, it really pisses some of them off.
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Old 08-17-2013, 06:59 AM   #33
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It's always a bit scary to read about your cops. Here in good old Europe I get off the bike, take off my helmet and don't have to worry about where my hands are or in what pocket I will reach at the next moment.
Here we've got too many assholes running around with guns who shoot cops at traffic stops, as a youtube search will show you. So, naturally, the cops tend to be a little wary when making traffic stops.
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Old 08-17-2013, 07:19 AM   #34
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It seems crazy I know,but after the last recent ticket Ive backed it off on the straight sections. Like going the speed limit or at least just the flow of traffic.

The thrill for me isnt buzzing down a straightaway like a sitting duck,cops hide way off the road out of sight and its luck of the draw rather they nail you.
Bikes stand out more then a line of cars.

Corners are where the fun is,harder to shoot radar in corners and corners are fun,straights are boring,click on the cruise control.

Makes for less stress and its amazing what you see if it isnt all a blur.

I see hidden cops I wouldnt have at 80+ ,old bikes hidden in yards,deer ready to jump,wild turkeys ready to scramble into the road,cars ready to pull out of side roads.

Its stupid I know, but that's what Ive found.

Mainly I HATE talking to cops!
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Old 08-17-2013, 07:34 AM   #35
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Old 08-17-2013, 07:56 AM   #36
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Taking your helmet off is a good move especially if you have gray hair. Stay on the bike with the kickstand up until instructed otherwise. You don't have to grovel, but OTOH, being a dick isn't a great idea. More good info here...

http://voices.yahoo.com/a-cops-guide...99.html?cat=27

That one works for me everytime
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Old 08-17-2013, 09:25 AM   #37
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scary

all your replies how to behave, as i see it, is scary.
show your hands, don't reach in you pocket etc.

from the other side, being a police man and to stop someone for something, and than to be on your guards for everything that might happen is scary as well.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:17 PM   #38
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Aww man, what do you know about Ted Bundy? Are you French, or are you just makin a load of money working over there? LOL
Only what I read. He could charm the spots off a leopard but he wasn't a really nice guy.

Not French and sure as hell not working.
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Old 08-17-2013, 02:36 PM   #39
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proper protocol

own safety first.

IFF (identify friend foe)

Is it a T-1000?



Not?
Do as the locals.
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Old 08-17-2013, 02:43 PM   #40
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SCOTUS says differently. Vehicle searches need PC but not a warrant in many cases.
They will search your vehicle if they arrest you.

They can only search your vehicle with your consent prior to that or with a warrant.

They MAY search your vehicle anyway, but as long as you do not give consent, and better yet tell them that you do not consent to a search, if they find anything you shouldn't have your lawyer will file a motion to dismiss on Fourth Amendment grounds.
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Old 08-17-2013, 07:12 PM   #41
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They will search your vehicle if they arrest you.

They can only search your vehicle with your consent prior to that or with a warrant.

They MAY search your vehicle anyway, but as long as you do not give consent, and better yet tell them that you do not consent to a search, if they find anything you shouldn't have your lawyer will file a motion to dismiss on Fourth Amendment grounds.
I suppose it depends on your jurisdiction, but in Florida for instance, a warrant is not required. If the police develop probable cause, they can search.
Probable cause can come from seeing contraband in the vehicle, smelling the odor of narcotics, a K9 alert, finding dope on one of the occupants, etc.

They can no longer search the vehicle based on your arrest alone, AZ v Gant changed that.
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They will search your vehicle if they arrest you.

They can only search your vehicle with your consent prior to that or with a warrant.

They MAY search your vehicle anyway, but as long as you do not give consent, and better yet tell them that you do not consent to a search, if they find anything you shouldn't have your lawyer will file a motion to dismiss on Fourth Amendment grounds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_exception

With PC, the vehicle can be searched with or without your consent and without a warrant.
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Old 08-18-2013, 12:21 AM   #43
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Pull all the way to the edge, make foot "slip" in gravel, fall over. Writhe in pain and yell for help. Get warning because they think you've suffered enough. Listen to heartfelt remarks that "maybe speeding is safer than sitting still for you"
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Old 08-18-2013, 05:57 AM   #44
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Taking your helmet off is a good move especially if you have gray hair.

true story, gray hair/beard helps


haven't got a ticket in a dozen years, just warnings at best, a couple times I got work for my company, if I'm within a 25 mile radius of home, 75% of time I know LEO or he/she knows of me through my work or community involvement
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Old 08-19-2013, 06:32 AM   #45
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I suppose it depends on your jurisdiction, but in Florida for instance, a warrant is not required. If the police develop probable cause, they can search.
Probable cause can come from seeing contraband in the vehicle, smelling the odor of narcotics, a K9 alert, finding dope on one of the occupants, etc.

They can no longer search the vehicle based on your arrest alone, AZ v Gant changed that.
Plain sight does not require a warrant.

A hunch does not equal probable cause, and cops are generally professional. A cop who calls for K9 units frequently, or is involved in significantly more searches than other officers is not going to be around for long.
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