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Old 08-19-2013, 05:44 AM   #20146
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So, Hick, what's the word on the case - ect - o -me? Will the patient survive? If so, in time for the Steamboat gig?

I am sure you have considered back up plan A = Load the 500 in to your truck & drive up.

(Sent from my Mac, sitting in a BnB in Kilarney, IE)
I fly to Spokane tomorrow morning, and the bike should be operational by Wed or Thurs. I am committed to the CDT as well as Steamboat.
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Old 08-19-2013, 07:22 PM   #20147
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Nice to have riding so close to the city. Thanks for looking!
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:17 AM   #20148
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Good price on a 690.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=218&ad=26413...h=ktm&ad_cid=1

Starting to see prices on early models come down.
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218...h=ktm&ad_cid=8

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Old 08-20-2013, 10:10 AM   #20149
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My spot shared page. Starting the ride wed/Thursday

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...qoQtpQNEvq0n0V
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:13 AM   #20150
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My spot shared page. Starting the ride wed/Thursday

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...qoQtpQNEvq0n0V
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Old 08-20-2013, 08:37 PM   #20151
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Did same ride two weeks ago, almost ran over a 5 foot rattlesnake in the road. Beautiful views up there!

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Old 08-21-2013, 07:21 AM   #20152
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I rarely see eye to eye with SUWA, but it looks like some of my favorite roads, trails and spots to wander are about to get sold....

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/56...lands.html.csp

I'd really hate the Swell to start looking like nine-mile
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:10 AM   #20153
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not so swell

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Old 08-21-2013, 09:37 AM   #20154
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Did same ride two weeks ago, almost ran over a 5 foot rattlesnake in the road. Beautiful views up there!
I hope to get back up there later this week and see if you can get all the way North to the Cell towers. I went south last time. Lot's of interesting options up there.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:52 AM   #20155
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not so swell...

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Old 08-21-2013, 10:15 AM   #20156
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Anybody riding Saturday?
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:32 AM   #20157
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Looking at Kev's map it looks like most are on or north of Cedar Mesa. Then a bunch north of Price (which I'm OK with personally). Oddly even though the article mentions it I don't see Eagle canyon on their graphic.

With gas leases they get sold but I believe something like 80% never get developed. Sort of like buying / purchasing a mining claim. You may or may not ever mine it. And then there are more restrictions on public land on top of that that make it harder to extract versus on private land. This is one more reason why its going off in the Uinta basin versus these areas because its hard and expensive to extract in these areas. Also, a lot of the natural gas in the Uinta Basin is being burned off right now because its too expensive to transport if not on a pipeline. I'd expect the same down there unless there is a pipeline, which I don't think there is. (would love to get Rymans thoughts on this). This means oil only, and I don't think there is a lot of oil down there versus gas.

So my take is this is basically a revenue generator for the state from companies who probably can't turn down the options to buy these leases, but they probably won't develop it and I don't expect it will change much. Maybe I'm wrong about it, but that's my take right now...

Edit: also, I'm pretty moderate and I'm even pro-wilderness in some cases, but that trib article was pretty biased and alarmist in my opinion on the side of the wilderness guys. Just the fact we're having this conversation is an example. Clearly our friends at SUWA got their hooks into him, which is unfortunate. It's also front page news for them today. It's true that these areas in some cases have "wilderness characteristics" (aka beautiful) but that is a pretty diluted term from them. The whole swell got completely carved up, worse than anything we've seen, in the 50's looking for uranium. Technically that violates the concept of wilderness because wilderness area are "untouched areas worthy of preserving" and it also shows how quickly and easily the desert heals itself up. Most of what we are riding are old exploratory and mining routes in these areas. Even in cases where its single track...

just mentioning...
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:54 AM   #20158
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Looking at Kev's map it looks like most are on or north of Cedar Mesa. Then a bunch north of Price (which I'm OK with personally). Oddly even though the article mentions it I don't see Eagle canyon on their graphic.

With gas leases they get sold but I believe something like 80% never get developed. Sort of like buying / purchasing a mining claim. You may or may not ever mine it. And then there are more restrictions on public land on top of that that make it harder to extract versus on private land. This is one more reason why its going off in the Uinta basin versus these areas because its hard and expensive to extract in these areas. Also, a lot of the natural gas in the Uinta Basin is being burned off right now because its too expensive to transport if not on a pipeline. I'd expect the same down there unless there is a pipeline, which I don't think there is. (would love to get Rymans thoughts on this). This means oil only, and I don't think there is a lot of oil down there versus gas.

So my take is this is basically a revenue generator for the state from companies who probably can't turn down the options to buy these leases, but they probably won't develop it and I don't expect it will change much. Maybe I'm wrong about it, but that's my take right now...

Edit: also, I'm pretty moderate and I'm even pro-wilderness in some cases, but that trib article was pretty biased and alarmist in my opinion on the side of the wilderness guys. Just the fact we're having this conversation is an example. Clearly our friends at SUWA got their hooks into him, which is unfortunate. It's also front page news for them today. It's true that these areas in some cases have "wilderness characteristics" (aka beautiful) but that is a pretty diluted term from them. The whole swell got completely carved up, worse than anything we've seen, in the 50's looking for uranium. Technically that violates the concept of wilderness because wilderness area are "untouched areas worthy of preserving" and it also shows how quickly and easily the desert heals itself up. Most of what we are riding are old exploratory and mining routes in these areas. Even in cases where its single track...

just mentioning...
The negative side effect to off road users when this stuff happens, is that it puts some great riding areas onto SUWA's radar. SUWA wont be able to stop much of the big money energy companies, but it will draw them to the area, and when they see our single track trails they will switch to restricting off road use in the area so that they feel like at least they were able to do/save something.
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:05 PM   #20159
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harcus and I rode the UTBDR section through there in late June. I told him the story of the road in Wyoming that now connects to Farson. It used to look like the swell (it traversed sagebrush, wetlands and the Green River), but when the O&G folks needed a transport road, they paved it and donated it to the state of Wyo.

I'm surprised it has taken this long but you're going to see major impact and changes. The truth lies somewhere between SUWA's position of no development or single track and the Industry position of park your car and stop heating your home if you don't like it. If we weren't exporting LNG ((NattyG)) and OIL to make money (we should stockpile our own resources, IMHO), I would support the Industry position more than I do. Unfortunately, that's not how the USofA works.....

My advice is to enjoy it as much as you can before the changes get rolling.......
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:39 PM   #20160
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The negative side effect to off road users when this stuff happens, is that it puts some great riding areas onto SUWA's radar. SUWA wont be able to stop much of the big money energy companies, but it will draw them to the area, and when they see our single track trails they will switch to restricting off road use in the area so that they feel like at least they were able to do/save something.
I used to think that SUWA was mostly concerned about oil & gas and less about off road but this isn't the case. All three are equal "threats" in their eyes and the largest single reason for their greater canyonlands proposal (that I believe is likely DOA right now) is 40% closure of roads. Less on the oil and gas, too expensive to extract there as well. Potash expansion was a thread but the market just collapsed so not so much any more. I would love to support SUWA and am actually pro wilderness in some areas. But just cannot, too far off the deep end in my opinion...
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