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Old 08-20-2013, 10:55 AM   #13036
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If my choices were limited to a TW and an XT, it would be the XT hands down. Throw a WR250-F into the mix and it changes completely. Probably a WR250R as well. Talk to Easy and BlueMoose about that bike. It seems to have a HUGE following, but it is heavy for a dirt bike.

Edit: Just looked at the specs and all three are right around 300# wet. For reference, the YZ250F is ~230 wet.
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Old 08-20-2013, 03:31 PM   #13037
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I really don't think of the WR or XT for that matter as a dirt bike. They are quarter slices of street bikes with plastic, long travel, and dirt bike wheels. They are 50 state legal and that equals weight. Very low maintenance and high reliability. If you aren't comfortable with the height of the WR in particular the XT is a good choice. The WR has a much higher compression fuel injected engine, much different than the XT. Flashback coming off a DR 650 would likely feel both are seriously underpowered. I think XT is better choice of the two hands down for what you want to do with it. The TW must have a place in the right terrain, but I don't see that being where the Flashback I know would want to go.

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If my choices were limited to a TW and an XT, it would be the XT hands down. Throw a WR250-F into the mix and it changes completely. Probably a WR250R as well. Talk to Easy and BlueMoose about that bike. It seems to have a HUGE following, but it is heavy for a dirt bike.

Edit: Just looked at the specs and all three are right around 300# wet. For reference, the YZ250F is ~230 wet.
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Old 08-20-2013, 03:34 PM   #13038
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That guy in Michigan has the TW Mutant for sale still. If you want, we could just mail it to you in pieces.



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that is a bizzrre bike...but the cost of shipping would prolly make it cost prohibitive..I've read many TW owners that say their bikes will out perform other bikes with more power when it comes to being able to rride through anything...if you're going to be in sand and mud alot the TW will shine wheras others with skinnier tires will just wash out...or so I've read. YMMV and good luck with the island trekking
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Old 08-20-2013, 08:56 PM   #13039
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that is a bizzrre bike...but the cost of shipping would prolly make it cost prohibitive..I've read many TW owners that say their bikes will out perform other bikes with more power when it comes to being able to rride through anything...if you're going to be in sand and mud alot the TW will shine wheras others with skinnier tires will just wash out...or so I've read. YMMV and good luck with the island trekking

That would completely depend on who is on them. When it comes to the folks I ride with, I'm way past being anything fast in the woods. But I can promise you that it would take someone with a lot more skill than me to outrun me on a TW. The bike has its place, but it's not as a serious anything. I think if you would take just about anyone and put them on both bikes, they're always going to be much faster on a real woods bike in virtually any circumstance. Riding sand is just a matter of learning how to do it. Lesson #1: go faster and keep your weight back.
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:02 PM   #13040
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That would completely depend on who is on them. When it comes to the folks I ride with, I'm way past being anything fast in the woods. But I can promise you that it would take someone with a lot more skill than me to outrun me on a TW. The bike has its place, but it's not as a serious anything. I think if you would take just about anyone and put them on both bikes, they're always going to be much faster on a real woods bike in virtually any circumstance.
The tw is great for putting around, and going slow over everything, but getting everywhere. Specially lower skill. It's VERY forgiving.
Some of the places I took the TW in Aruba, I was able to poke along nice and slow cause of the wide tires, but on something like my KTM, it doesn't know "slow" That said, once you've gotten the basic skills, a <250lb 50hp bike with great suspension is going to smoke a >300lb 13hp bike with crappy suspension.

That said, my wife, or buddy that doesn't ride could ride a tw200 anywhere. Hell, you can even ride two up on it. you can't hurt the damn thing..
But you won't do ANYTHING fast.....
The XT will be "faster" but you're only getting 17-20 hp out of that... :)
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:16 AM   #13041
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I've got a friend that raced the NCHSA series a few years ago on an older XR250 with about the same power and weight as the XT. While he wasn't winning races, he was running mid-pack. 18HP is adequate for *most* situations. Not exciting, but it will get you up hills and out of the mud.
That said, I wouldn't own one.
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:23 AM   #13042
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Any of you guys ever seen the TW folks up on 129? They used to come up every year. I ran into them years ago. A bunch of TWs with street tires tearing up the mountain roads. It was funny to watch them pass other riders on a 16hp, fat tire, 300lb bike. It seems that little bike is well suited for roads without straightaways.
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:22 AM   #13043
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Since this is our anniversary, we thought a good tag would be the spot where we were married. The in laws had a nice place on the lake here.
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:33 PM   #13044
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Two pages of chatter because nobody wants to get rid of an anniversary tag ;)


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Old 08-21-2013, 04:05 PM   #13045
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Old 08-22-2013, 02:50 AM   #13046
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Old 08-22-2013, 03:15 AM   #13047
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Old 08-22-2013, 04:35 AM   #13048
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Damn... You pretty much own the night tagger badge now, you know.
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:13 AM   #13049
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Damn... You pretty much own the night tagger badge now, you know.
There is no competition for the badge, which is great. I saw two motorcycles this morning, "oh no, possible tag thieves". Then came the loud Harley exhaust, "nope, no brucing today".
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:26 AM   #13050
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There is no competition for the badge, which is great. I saw two motorcycles this morning, "oh no, possible tag thieves". Then came the loud Harley exhaust, "nope, no brucing today".
Damn it


I didn't check this, and rode there this morning.. (there are a few fun trails around there from my house...)

And they have good coffee..

If it's still there this afternoon, I'll get it...
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