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Old 08-22-2013, 06:21 AM   #16
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an under engine exhaust like on a Buell could easily point forward and be disguised to not look stupid
That, sir, presupposes that you don't already think the under engine exhaust, like on a Buell looks stupid.
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:25 AM   #17
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Ok, I'll go slow. If hi-vis clothing increases safety, then I think hi-hear exhausts should also increase safety. The louder the better I suppose. Asking a motorcyclist to point his pipes forward is akin to asking a motorcyclist to wear a flashing yellow light on his helmet. Ridiculous.
No dumber than the concept of loud pipes in the first place!

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Old 08-22-2013, 06:29 AM   #18
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Anyone who has ever passed a LOUD bike knows that it is far louder behind the bike than in front of it.

Add that new cars are pretty effective at blocking outside noise, and a stereo even at lower volumes, and the loud pipes arguement just doesn't wash.

I also do not believe high viz does much, though I do have a set of conspicuity lights on my bike, I doubt they help much either.

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Old 08-22-2013, 06:43 AM   #19
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This thread topic really never ends does it.
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:47 AM   #20
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This thread topic really never ends does it.
Like ATGATT, it never will as long as some insist on pushing faulty logic!

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Old 08-22-2013, 08:34 AM   #21
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Been meaning to share the story for a little while, just been waiting for the latest "loud pipes" thread.

GF and I spent a long weekend this summer visiting her dad in Santa Fe. I had never been, absolutely loved it, awesome place.

Now, I've been to plenty of places in this country, and I've seen a lot of things. But until New Mexico, one thing I *hadn't* seen-- or more accurately, heard-- was just the insane prevalence of loud pipes. We're talking pure, open pipes of bone-rattling volume.

I admit, some of the annoyance was a result of our choice to drive a rental Mustang convertible. No protection from loud pipes there.

But guess what? There's no protection from loud pipes anywhere. Side streets, parking lots, outdoor shopping, restaurant patios... didn't matter where, you couldn't escape the sound.

One day we went walking through Pecos National Park, we're MILES from the highway, and even that far, the loud pipes would reverb off the walls of the mountains.

And I'm not talking normal motorcycle volume here, I'm talking, "Sorry Mr. Park Ranger, you need to please stop talking about the pueblo for thirty seconds while that biker throttles through the pass."

Again: Miles. Away.

Now, in my neck of the woods, loud pipes are pretty rare (especially on cruisers-- yeah, we get the sportbikers jetting up and down 395 all night long). I don't recall any bikers I know getting tickets for them around here, but I'm guessing they must, or else they'd be more commonplace. So, in general, my attitude towards them has been pretty blase-- they're not everywhere, so an occasional one doesn't annoy me so much as amuse me.

But that trip to New Mexico changed my mind, big time. Discovering that there are *plenty* of riders out there who *really do* run these abominations casually and just don't give a damn was an eye-opener.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:08 AM   #22
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and just don't give a damn
Part of the whole image being pursued.
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Old 08-22-2013, 11:26 AM   #23
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Like ATGATT, it never will as long as some insist on pushing faulty logic!

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Don't these stupid folk realize that you have the only valid point of view around here? A self appointed expert on everything motorcycle.
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Old 08-22-2013, 11:31 AM   #24
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I don't need loud pipes. I ride a Ducati, so my clutch rattle is loud enough to suffice.

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Old 08-22-2013, 12:18 PM   #25
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I don't need loud pipes. I ride a Ducati, so my clutch rattle is loud enough to suffice.

Right on brother. Dry clutches save lives!
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Old 08-22-2013, 01:29 PM   #26
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An interesting factoid for me occurred a couple of weeks ago while driving my car. I was behind two morons with straight pipes for about 5 minutes until I decided their annoying me was not to be tolerated and I would be damned if I was gonna pull over and wait for them to get into the next time zone so I wouldn't have to hear them.

Instead, I blasted by them at high speed in a fairly risky pass in a potentially dangerous spot, but I got in front of them and didn't have to listen to them anymore.

Now, considering I am usually a pretty cautious driver but was willing to endanger all three of us (more them, to tell the truth) to get away from their noise, it got me to wondering just how much safer they made themselves with their loud pipes.

And, yes, I realize my driving was not acceptable and I was wrong. That is not my point. My point is, I believe many other people may do equally or more dangerous things as a result of this crap. And I wonder how that factors into the moronic debate.
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Old 08-22-2013, 02:29 PM   #27
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just been waiting for the latest "loud pipes" thread.
What's the matter? Last weeks loud pipe thread wasn't good enough? Or the one the week before that...or the one the week before that......
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Old 08-22-2013, 04:30 PM   #28
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Then they need to make a turbo diesel cruiser and turn that sumbitch up till it smokes. That'd really get people's attention.
That's the funniest damn thing I ever heard. D.
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Old 08-22-2013, 04:48 PM   #29
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Don't these stupid folk realize that you have the only valid point of view around here? A self appointed expert on everything motorcycle.
It is about time you realized that!

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Old 08-22-2013, 05:19 PM   #30
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