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Old 08-23-2013, 03:09 PM   #31
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^The average car in America is something like 11 years old now, IIRC - so people are keeping them longer.
I'll bet that it isn't the gas engine that always puts a bullet in Ol' Yeller, though. Trans/transaxles and rust take a heavy toll around here...
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Old 08-23-2013, 04:56 PM   #32
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Every smaller truck I've owned has been a disappointment because the mileage is only marginally better than full size at best. Seems like the improvement is never enough to justify having a mini truck. IMO, one of the best things you can do is get a full size diesel and set it up for good mileage. I have a 2006 Duramax one ton, crew cab, long bed, with 35" tires. I get 17-18mpg around town and 20mpg on the highway. I also have in the neighborhood of 500 hp and can haul anything I want. I couldn't be happier with it. My truck is just one example, but there are plenty of them that do even better.
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Old 08-23-2013, 06:29 PM   #33
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In a deal forged with Cummins, Nissan announced Tuesday that its next-generation full-size Titan pickup would be available with a turbocharged 5-liter V-8 diesel engine. Nissan says the engine will be rated at 300 horsepower, will produce more than 500 pound-feet of torque, and will, among the current constellation of full-size pickups available in the American market, be the only diesel option available for light-duty pickup customers.
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:06 AM   #34
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^The average car in America is something like 11 years old now, IIRC - so people are keeping them longer...
I don't think that's first owner though, which makes a difference on what people buy at initial purchase.
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Old 08-24-2013, 03:07 PM   #35
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^The average car in America is something like 11 years old now, IIRC - so people are keeping them longer.
I'll bet that it isn't the gas engine that always puts a bullet in Ol' Yeller, though. Trans/transaxles and rust take a heavy toll around here...
I wonder how that will change as the economy improves. New cars sales are way up this year.
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Old 08-24-2013, 09:01 PM   #36
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I meant the pick up. Dakota.
Well then you better wait for a Jeep Pickup. Supposedly it's happening and the Dakota is dead.

If you really want something like that buy a Sprinter cab chassis and put a bed on it.

I am really surprised that nobody has mentioned anything about the Nissan getting an engine that Dodge helped create.
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:26 AM   #37
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If you really want something like that buy a Sprinter cab chassis and put a bed on it.
Unless they ave changed the cab, don't do it if you're tall. I've driven one and it was horrible. The cab is short, and with the seat far enough back, it has to be almost vertical.

Driving it for an hour or two is torture. I'm 6'2".

I think ford made (makes?) the best cab. For a whole the short cab had about 18" of space behind the seats. Enough room for tool bags, camping gear, luggage, groceries, etc. I have no need for seats in the back of the cab - living near a city means tight parking, and a crew cab would be a nightmare. Dodge offers the "absolutely nothing behind the seats" model and two crew cabs. Neither of those work for me. If I replace the ford, it will need a similar cab.
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:52 PM   #38
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Unless they ave changed the cab, don't do it if you're tall. I've driven one and it was horrible. The cab is short, and with the seat far enough back, it has to be almost vertical.

Driving it for an hour or two is torture. I'm 6'2".

I think ford made (makes?) the best cab. For a whole the short cab had about 18" of space behind the seats. Enough room for tool bags, camping gear, luggage, groceries, etc. I have no need for seats in the back of the cab - living near a city means tight parking, and a crew cab would be a nightmare. Dodge offers the "absolutely nothing behind the seats" model and two crew cabs. Neither of those work for me. If I replace the ford, it will need a similar cab.
They sell a double cab Sprinter chassis cab in other markets. That would be a nice set up with a 10' dropside bed.
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:24 AM   #39
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:55 AM   #40
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I don't think that's first owner though, which makes a difference on what people buy at initial purchase.
In my wife's case it is.
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:33 PM   #41
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Oh I bet the flat billers will be drooling over this Nissan. Picture: 2wd, lifted 12", twin stacks, and rollin-coal.
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:55 PM   #42
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This is great news. I've been thinking about selling my 2500HD Duramax for something smaller and this would fit the bill perfectly.

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Old 08-30-2013, 03:33 PM   #43
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Wow...with the Nissan, Dodge, and GM products FINALLY putting a diesel into 1/2 ton trucks, maybe I will be in the market in the next couple of years. I think this is great news!

Ford? are you out there???
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Old 08-30-2013, 05:01 PM   #44
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Wow...with the Nissan, Dodge, and GM products FINALLY putting a diesel into 1/2 ton trucks, maybe I will be in the market in the next couple of years. I think this is great news!

Ford? are you out there???
Why would Ford want to produce a small diesel? They've got their EcoBoost V6 that's generating diesel like power.
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Old 08-30-2013, 05:04 PM   #45
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Wow...with the Nissan, Dodge, and GM products FINALLY putting a diesel into 1/2 ton trucks, maybe I will be in the market in the next couple of years. I think this is great news!

Ford? are you out there???
I know, different strokes and all that, but I don't understand the draw. Honest question, what draws you to a 1/2 ton truck with a small diesel?
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