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Old 08-30-2013, 06:25 PM   #46
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Torque per unit displacement and consistently good mileage regardless of conditions.

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Old 08-30-2013, 06:32 PM   #47
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Wow...with the Nissan, Dodge, and GM products FINALLY putting a diesel into 1/2 ton trucks, maybe I will be in the market in the next couple of years. I think this is great news!

Ford? are you out there???
GM is a mid-size, not a half ton. Although the mid-size is about what a half ton was not too long ago.
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Old 08-30-2013, 07:25 PM   #48
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Wow...with the Nissan, Dodge, and GM products FINALLY putting a diesel into 1/2 ton trucks, maybe I will be in the market in the next couple of years. I think this is great news!

Ford? are you out there???
The colorado/canyon or whatever they will be called are still considered 1/4 ton trucks.
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:56 PM   #49
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I'd like to see the Chevrolet Montana here with a 2L turbodiesel and optional 4WD. They're listed with a 2,000# payload in Brazil with a 1.4L gasser and FWD. Figure they oughta be able to do 2,000 in the bed and 3500 on the drawbar with a diesel (and the right transmission), while knocking down 35mpg when empty.
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:06 PM   #50
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The colorado/canyon or whatever they will be called are still considered 1/4 ton trucks.
Seems unlikely, since some models are rated to tow 6,000#. The online owner's manual doesn't list payload, because they say that it's unit-specific and must be read from the placard on the door jamb. An example of a 1/4-ton truck is a WWII-era Jeep.
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:33 AM   #51
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Seems unlikely, since some models are rated to tow 6,000#. The online owner's manual doesn't list payload, because they say that it's unit-specific and must be read from the placard on the door jamb. An example of a 1/4-ton truck is a WWII-era Jeep.
Payload and vehicle weight don't classify the truck. 1/2 ton trucks can tow over 5 tons. 1 ton trucks are up to 15 tons. The payload of a 1/2 ton F-150 ranges from 3/4 ton to 1.5 ton.

They are just model segment designators now. Although I haven't heard anyone call them a 1/4 ton truck in a long time. I only hear 'compact' or 'mid-sized'.
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Old 08-31-2013, 10:18 AM   #52
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Oh I bet the flat billers will be drooling over this Nissan. Picture: 2wd, lifted 12", twin stacks, and rollin-coal.


the brodozers are out of control around here. Just when I thought nothing could be more annoying than ricers...
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Old 08-31-2013, 03:13 PM   #53
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Why would Ford want to produce a small diesel? They've got their EcoBoost V6 that's generating diesel like power.
I like the ecoboost...but its a very complex motor and not without its critics. I've read a few issues with them. A diesel however is simpler and I like simple. Compression ignition removes all bs associated with plugs, wires, etc...more robust bocks and internals should mean longer life and yes, the mileage is a lot better especially now the gas has gotten more expensive.
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Old 08-31-2013, 04:28 PM   #54
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Where is that damn "like" button?
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Old 08-31-2013, 06:48 PM   #55
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Where is that damn "like" button?
Don't get all lovey-dovey so soon, Jurgen.

There was a lot to dis-like about the current generation Colorado.
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Old 08-31-2013, 07:34 PM   #56
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Don't get all lovey-dovey so soon, Jurgen.

There was a lot to dis-like about the current generation Colorado.
I deal with that everyday. I drive a 2005 4cylinder 5speed hand crank window Canyon. Trust me I know all abiut the cost savings in the build.

But... not to jinx myself, at 108000 all me miles, it has been the most reliable vehicle I have owned.
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Old 08-31-2013, 10:04 PM   #57
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I like the ecoboost...but its a very complex motor and not without its critics. I've read a few issues with them. A diesel however is simpler and I like simple. Compression ignition removes all bs associated with plugs, wires, etc...more robust bocks and internals should mean longer life and yes, the mileage is a lot better especially now the gas has gotten more expensive.
I would disagree on the complexity point. You are comparing to the diesel from the olden days. Modern diesel emission control is very complex and HPFP and common rail injection is not a cheap fix either if you have a failure out of warranty ($10k+). I think the direct injection turbo gas motors have a place in the future of truck motors. Complimented by diesel. I hope.
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Old 09-01-2013, 08:23 AM   #58
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I deal with that everyday. I drive a 2005 4cylinder 5speed hand crank window Canyon. Trust me I know all abiut the cost savings in the build.

But... not to jinx myself, at 108000 all me miles, it has been the most reliable vehicle I have owned.
my wife put a 100,000 miles on a 2wd Colorado
she loved it
but it was a cheap truck
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Old 09-01-2013, 02:04 PM   #59
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I would disagree on the complexity point. You are comparing to the diesel from the olden days. Modern diesel emission control is very complex and HPFP and common rail injection is not a cheap fix either if you have a failure out of warranty ($10k+). I think the direct injection turbo gas motors have a place in the future of truck motors. Complimented by diesel. I hope.
EGRs are complex no doubt but now that the Europeans are using the same stds as the US there can and will be a lot more tech available. And remember that Benz has been meeting the new regs using urea solutions. Injector pump replacement has always been expensive that's nothing new. A lot of these arguments sound very similar to the battery concerns in hybrids. People talking about the dreaded 5k new battery packs. Now there are rebuilders sprouting up selling packs for 1500.

Funny thing about another post re ford are you listening asking why they should bother when they have the ecoboost. Well...look at the upcoming transit...both the ecoboost AND their new diesel will be offered. So they obviously think someone wants choice.
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:12 AM   #60
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