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View Results: Are you ATGATT?
Dunno, dont care. Biker gear for me. 4 1.01%
Maybe a helmet, maybe not. I dress for the weather and my destination. 6 1.51%
I dress for the weather and my destination, and always a helmet when on the road. 28 7.05%
Usually a helmet, motorcycle jacket and gloves, but don't make a big deal about gear. 48 12.09%
Most of the gear, most of the time. 130 32.75%
ATGATT..... all the gear, always. 163 41.06%
ATGATT plus; all the recommended gear then some. 18 4.53%
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Old 09-01-2013, 07:03 AM   #16
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comfort.

My atgatt is comfortable from 20 degress to 100 degrees, sun, wind or rain.
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Old 09-01-2013, 01:06 PM   #17
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I don't always put on MC specific pants if I'm just going around town at low speeds. Haven't gotten MC boots yet, but they're on the list.
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Old 09-01-2013, 02:18 PM   #18
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Comfort.

My ATGATT is comfortable from 20 degress to 100 degrees, sun, wind or rain.
Tell me what you prefer to wear.
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Old 09-01-2013, 02:34 PM   #19
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You only need ATGATT if you fall off. Don't fall off and you don't need it. On my commute I'm in jacket, helmet, gloves and boots but if I'm carving canyons it's full leathers...
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Old 09-01-2013, 02:54 PM   #20
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Here's a Motorcycle Safety website someone shared with me.

http://www.msgroup.org/forums/mtt/default.asp

As it was presented to me, this site is administered by a fellow who has made a career as an "expert witness" presenting motorcycle collision facts as evidence in court cases.

There is a wealth of research available here for reference regarding gear, statistics, and more, as well as things that can be done to reduce risk.

Something for any rider who is interested in bettering their chances.

Enjoy.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:25 PM   #21
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You only need ATGATT if you fall off. Don't fall off and you don't need it. On my commute I'm in jacket, helmet, gloves and boots but if I'm carving canyons it's full leathers...
Let's extrapolate this a little.

You only need ATGATT for abrasion and impact protection if you fall off.

For myself and possibly one or two other folks, the rest of the time ATGATT will make the rider more comfortable by reducing dehydration, sunburn, windburn, and other exposure-related issues in hot climes, and with layers or electrics underneath can beat cold weather as well.

Year-round it is there to catch the bugs, small debris and the like off the road that would otherwise impact the wife-beater shirt, bare arms, and legs, and those oh-so-cute flip-flops at highway speeds. Thus bringing the absence of ATGATT to the attention of that rider, post haste. (not Homey, just those folks we see riding like this)

As for leathers, if you have sweat heavily in them, been in rain, or just worn them fairly often for a year or more the seam strength and abrasion resistance will have likely been reduced significantly. Replacing leathers regularly due to the effects of these things on leather is an additional cost of wearing leather for protection. I haven't heard much good about leather for comfort, nor is it practical for daily wear.

Motoport Air Mesh Kevlar (not like ANY other mesh gear) is an example of gear that testing has shown to be a little stronger than NEW competition leather in abrasion resistance and TEN TIMES as strong in seam strength. The material won't deteriorate over use and will last a long time. For street riding this product made the most sense to me after considering all the options.

When I talk about me wearing gear all the time, I am talking about gear that can be worn comfortably all the time over my clothes. Gear that is designed to be easy to get into and out of also adds to this comfort aspect. I can be in or out of the gear in a minute, and knocking about in regular clothes at work or at play.

Comfort is the most significant reason for ATGATT. The greater protection provided is a secondary consideration worthy of merit. For me it was the icing on the cake. The cake itself was being able to ride hundreds of miles per day for consecutive days in comfort.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:50 PM   #22
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On my commute I'm in jacket, helmet, gloves and boots but if I'm carving canyons it's full leathers...
This, and plan to add a chest protector for when I feel that I will push it.
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:26 PM   #23
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...Just a few ATGATT threads:...
bored? ;) We need more quite posting stupid and redundant post posts!
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:54 PM   #24
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You only need ATGATT if you fall off. Don't fall off and you don't need it.
Exactly. That is why I never wear my gear on days that I am guaranteed not to crash. :)
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Old 09-01-2013, 06:14 PM   #25
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Exactly. That is why I never wear my gear on days that I am guaranteed not to crash. :)
Exactly!
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Exactly. That is why I never wear my gear on days that I am guaranteed not to crash. :)
Because of Murphy's Law, those are the only days I wear gear.
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Old 09-01-2013, 11:52 PM   #27
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Why isn't there an option for mind your own business and doesn't provide an answer....

The first one still answers it.
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:17 PM   #28
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Why isn't there an option for mind your own business and doesn't provide an answer....

The first one still answers it.

There is that option, don't answer the question, don't respond to the thread, don't click on the thread link.
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:33 PM   #29
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There is that option, don't answer the question, don't respond to the thread, don't click on the thread link.
It needs a none of the above choice also.
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Old 09-03-2013, 08:00 PM   #30
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Been there and elsewhere. Definitely a culture thing. And as another pointed out this particular site is going to attract those serious about the "sport" lifestyle aspect. If I lived in Thailand I might ride a scoot minus gear also. Perhaps in the future...
Culture, for sure..... With around 85% of ADVrider forum members claiming to be ATGATT or thereabouts (based on the present sample of about 135 votes) those who are not come in for a bit of a hard time. Given how hotly the topic is debated, I would have expected a more even spread, but now I see it as more a case of peer pressure to fall into line.

But as you suggest you would, how many others would adopt the local culture fairly promptly in a different environment?

Actually, more than a few motorcyclists from the West dare not ride the mean streets of these Southeast Asian parts. Cultural differences on the road apply to more than just attire.

With registered motorcycles outnumbering car by three to one in Phuket, riding is primarily a practical way to get around locally. For long distance travel people use a car (if they have one available) or public transport.

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