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Old 09-02-2013, 05:09 AM   #1276
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Bump. Back to the top.

I think with a little more effort we can get this thread more posts and reads than the Noob Sticky.
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Old 09-02-2013, 05:43 AM   #1277
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Is ATGATT overrated?
If you don't ever crash then ATGATT is overrated.
Unfortunately, I have crashed so in my case ATGATT is not overrated.
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Old 09-02-2013, 05:48 AM   #1278
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I made the statement: ATGATT is overrated.... it's for guys who are either too afraid of a boo-boo or those who feel like thay have to put on an amour suit to prove how manly they are to participate in such a dangerous activity....over in the Killboy failure Dragon thread and it elecited a few comments. Sure it was a little over the top but there are truths on both ends of the spectrum.

Immediately it was assumed that I wear a Ebay plastic brain bucket with a fake DOT sticker. Just for the record I own 2 DOT approved Harely (Made by KBC) half halemts, one DOT apporved Harley (Made by HJC) 3/4 helmet, one Shoei Quest full face helmet and one AGV AX8 dual sport full face helmet. I have a few pair of gloves and 4 or 5 riding specific jackets ranging from a light nylon windbreaker to a heavy textile 3/4 length coat complete with body armor, and one pair of 10 year Danner Arcadia boots. Still trying to score a pair of Sidi Gore-tex Canyon boots at a decent price.

I've been riding since about age 7 but only on dirt until college then no street bike for 15 years but since 1999 I've had 8 street bikes. Sadly I don't get to ride near as much as some of you but have logged over 100,000 miles in the last 10 years. Not a huge amount but I ride for fun, don't ride to work and back and have other hobbies/obligations.

Rarely do I ride ATGATT and if you guys are honest with yourselves I bet most of you don't ride ATGATT either as it implies ALL the gear ALL the time.

One of the best things about the bike is I can jump on it and be gone in a second and have fun running my mundane errands. It's hot and humid here, I'm talking over 90F with humidity above 50% in the summer and that typically means 6 moths or more. You walk outside and you will be wet with sweat in short order. If I'm running errands around town and will be in and out a few stores I'm not putting on long pants, boots, gloves, and a heavy jacket....it just isn't happening. Not only will I be uncomfortable but it will add double the time to dress in my gear, remove the gear at each stop, and gear back up again. I really might as well have taken the car...and isn't that what is suppose to be the benefit of bikes...less gas consumption, easier to park, easier to manuever in heavy congested traffic, easier on the environment so more people should be riding?

I'm an adult and have been for over 25 years. I fully understand the risks associated with riding with little protective gear and I choose to accept those risks. For ME it is those risks that make riding fun and get the adrenaline pumping. When all totally geard up I feel like I'm in a coccon and isolated from the elements which honestly takes away from my enjoyment of the riding process...at those times riding becomes more like a task an less like a pleasurable experience. I ride for fun, if it's not fun I might as well be taking the car.

I've been down 3 times from low siding, only once did I have on a helmet and twice with shorts but no gloves and tennis shoes. I got some rash on my leg and forearm. Picked gravel out each time, sure it hurt but not THAT bad and it healed up just fine. Each time I went down I was doing something stupid and the accidents were 100% avoidable, I learned from those experiences and I'm a better rider as a result.

My point was not to claim that one shouldn't wear some protective gear but to point out that when others don't dress the same they have reasons for doing so and have at some level made a conscious decision to choose their attire.

My biggest fear while riding is blunt force trauma or a spinal cord injury. ATGATT won't do much to prevent either in a accident with signicant impact...yea your corpse may look a little better lying in the casket but your still lying in a casket.

The vast majority of riders I see in my area (southeast USA) are not ATGATT and that includes guys and gals I see atop adventure/DS bikes, sport bikes, sport touring bikes, and cruisers. Maybe they are just running errands like I do at times but they are riding and they are not ATGATT.

Yet so many on this site make emphatic judgement calls about others based on what they were wearing while riding when a picture was taken it prompted my statement. Of couse it was inflammatory and was thown out to elicit debate.

What say you?

How many of you guys wear ALL the gear EVERY SINGLE TIME you ride a bike, and if you don't wear ALL the gear EVERY SINGLE TIME why not?

what ear plugs are the most comfortable and eliminate the most noise?
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Old 09-02-2013, 07:14 AM   #1279
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If you don't ever crash then ATGATT is overrated.
Unfortunately, I have crashed so in my case ATGATT is not overrated.
I crashed, it's still overrated.
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Old 09-02-2013, 11:29 AM   #1280
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i crashed, it's still overrated.
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Old 09-02-2013, 11:49 AM   #1281
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what ear plugs are the most comfortable and eliminate the most noise?
The best ear plugs are made from a combination of 24 karat gold and the inner ear membrane of a Canadian Lynx. Only one company in the world makes them, and you have to be invited by a member of the Illuminati.




















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Old 09-02-2013, 12:00 PM   #1282
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The best ear plugs are made from a combination of 24 karat gold and the inner ear membrane of a Canadian Lynx. Only one company in the world makes them, and you have to be invited by a member of the Illuminati.




















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If you're trying to be a jackass , yes.
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Old 09-02-2013, 12:04 PM   #1283
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Plastic Knee Guards with Padding on a Low Side

Diesel spill in an intersection in Pahrump Nevada, Had Knee Guards with padding, Making the left turn with a green light, I was down so fast, it was surreal. My knee, the brush guard, and rear luggage rack equally took the hit, and after 2 guys picked up the DR for me, I was left with torn Levi's AT THE KNEE, and a small bruise on a hip. Now figure, what hits first,----your knee.
I didn't go to a Doctor or miss a days work. Sold on knee protection.

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Old 09-02-2013, 07:33 PM   #1284
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Road rash hurts more than bruises.
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:52 AM   #1285
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If you're trying to be a jackass , yes.

Your post is equally helpful to shelbird's question.

Custom molded ear plugs will be the most comfortable (when done correctly, not at a stand during a MC rally), but have no personal experience with them. They can also be designed with a very high Noise Reduction Rating.

I use disposable foam plugs and I like the Moldex Purafit (NRR 33) the best, after that I like the slightly "louder" but even more comfortable Howard Leight Max (NRR 30).
When touring, I use the Howard Leights when my ears begin to get painful after wearing the Purafits the whole day for several days straight.

You could buy an assortment pack (Earplugstore.com) to find out which style you like.
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Old 09-03-2013, 06:58 AM   #1286
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Road rash hurts more than bruises.
Bad road-rash hurts more than broken bones.
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:59 AM   #1287
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Bad road-rash hurts more than broken bones.
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And for a much longer time too.
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Old 09-03-2013, 08:37 AM   #1288
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Bad road-rash hurts more than broken bones.
I know this!

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I was happy when the thread moved to another page so I didn't have to scroll through your carnage again.

I've had enough similar injuries that I wince when I see shots like those.

Hope the remaining drippy spot gets healed up for you soon.
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Old 09-03-2013, 09:24 AM   #1289
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Bad road-rash hurts more than broken bones.
I know this!

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Yep!
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Old 09-03-2013, 10:31 AM   #1290
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Why do Rugby players not get concussions a lot more frequently than NFL players then if it is not the Peltzman effect?
Because they are not playing football. You will note that in the study about the Peltzman effect, the two groups were participating in the same activity. Comparing concussion rates from two different sports and attributing the difference to anything other than the fact that they are different sports is so far outside of sound scientific and statistical methods it's laughable.
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