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Old 08-28-2013, 07:24 PM   #16
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The best recent trend is articles with the words "public opinion" in the title which contain nothing but twitter quotes. How is that journalism?

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Old 08-29-2013, 01:38 PM   #17
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I've spent 10 years as a member of the Fourth Estate. I was a talented news getter, writing for community weeklies at first, then dailies (a never ending string of term contracts and freelance.)
Then, six years ago, I decided to switch careers and did a one-year B. Ed and became a teacher. Huge drop in the pay check but my income now matches what it would have been had I remained a reporter (which means top of the grid for an inkslinger, halfway up the grid as a teacher...)
Do I regret my decision? Only when I read the bylines of former colleagues at The Citizen (not the one in Prince George...) covering a huge story...
But the business is so different then when I started. Weeklies are still the place to start, but you work much harder to feed the beast that is the web. And dailies aren't offering staff positions, are cutting back on the number of reporters in the newsroom and are asking those who are there to turn in more stories in a day...
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Old 08-29-2013, 02:16 PM   #18
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So many aspects!

So many aspects to this seemingly simple topic have been brought up already. How about the aspect of paperless journalism? (Reducing paper use.) I'm not sure how I feel about it myself - there's a nice quality to holding a hard copy in your hands (not to mention job retention)...but I like to respect the environmental impact as well.
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Old 08-29-2013, 03:41 PM   #19
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I've spent 10 years as a member of the Fourth Estate. I was a talented news getter, writing for community weeklies at first, then dailies (a never ending string of term contracts and freelance.)
Then, six years ago, I decided to switch careers and did a one-year B. Ed and became a teacher. Huge drop in the pay check but my income now matches what it would have been had I remained a reporter (which means top of the grid for an inkslinger, halfway up the grid as a teacher...)
Do I regret my decision? Only when I read the bylines of former colleagues at The Citizen (not the one in Prince George...) covering a huge story...
But the business is so different then when I started. Weeklies are still the place to start, but you work much harder to feed the beast that is the web. And dailies aren't offering staff positions, are cutting back on the number of reporters in the newsroom and are asking those who are there to turn in more stories in a day...
Good luck in the teaching world - I think you made a good choice. My ex is a teacher and the industry is still healthy from what I can tell. I just got off the phone with my university going Son and we were discussing the demise of the Globe - he agreed that the quality had diminished over the last few years. He is now turning his sights to the European rags - Le Monde, The Guardian, etc. They still seem to be doing a good job of it and seem to be healthy. Maybe the disease of which we speak is more of a North American phenomena.
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:40 PM   #20
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I wonder if the journalists like to eat. Or own houses.
I have a number of paid subscriptions to other newspapers and magazines - electronic and physical formats; I used to subscribe to the G&M, however, I have found that the quality of much of their product has gone steadily downhill over the past 20 to 25 years or so - much more quickly in the past 5 or so.
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:16 AM   #21
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I read the A section of the Globe daily so I can keep tabs on Central Canada's view of what is going on out West. I like the paper's writers, regardless of whether I agree with their positions. Sometimes, as in Jeff Simpson's column today about the identity of Quebecers, they can be brilliant.

As for the future of newspapers, I think we're headed for a Jeff Bezos world, so we'll have keep a tablet handy in the bathroom.

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Old 08-30-2013, 11:02 AM   #22
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...They still seem to be doing a good job of it and seem to be healthy. Maybe the disease of which we speak is more of a North American phenomena.
Pretty much agree. I make paper for a living and while our order-book for N.A. is in steep decline our contracts for Central and South America remain healthy. For how long is the question...
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:48 PM   #23
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I would actually pay a monthly subscription fee for some of these online "newspaper" sites if the subscription fee actually eliminated the annoying advertising on the websites.
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Old 08-31-2013, 10:37 AM   #24
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Sometimes, as in Jeff Simpson's column today about the identity of Quebecers, they can be brilliant.
Jeff Simpson is a true treasure to read and hear. It's the Margaret Wente's and their drivel that started the race to the end of what was once a great publication.
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Old 09-01-2013, 09:17 AM   #25
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It's the Margaret Wente's and their drivel...


On a related note, Diane Francis has an excellent column in the August 27 Financial Post, on where Jeff Bezos is taking the Washington Post. I couldn't get it to link, because I haven't paid any subscription.
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Old 09-07-2013, 04:01 AM   #26
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I'm one of thousands of laid off paper mill workers. It's a changed world, and there isn't much you can do about it. I can't believe how many fairly modern paper mills shut down in my corner of the world.
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