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View Results: Get down to bidness: 500 or 700?
CB500X 110 46.41%
NC700X 127 53.59%
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:28 AM   #61
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http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/kawasaki/versys

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i'm averaging 52 with cases, 54-56 without on my daily commute. i spend about 40 minutes at a steady 80mph indicated. i need to change my gearing really. it would help out greatly. the other day, keeping to back roads and riding conservative with cases, i was averaging 59..
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Old 08-23-2013, 05:23 PM   #62
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Versys can do even better then that at low revs.
But the Versys loves revs. That's why, for a 650, it's so much fun.
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:01 PM   #63
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I got 60MPG on open roads on my ER6F (Ninja 650R) without even trying,
riding faster then 98% of the traffic between 4500 and 5500 revs. 52MPG
was my 20k mile+ average with most of the miles from stoplight to stoplight.

Versys can do even better then that at low revs.
In the real world with me riding, I got a little better fuel economy on my Ninja 650R than I do on my Versys. Not a completely fair comparison, since I ride them differently. I expect the lower, plastic-clad Ninja has less drag.
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Old 08-24-2013, 03:50 AM   #64
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But the Versys loves revs. That's why, for a 650, it's so much fun.
It's actually rather flat like the NC700X, just revs more, they've got
the same power output at 6000 revs. It's not peaky at the top like
the Ninja 650 is, THAT version likes to rev.
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Old 08-24-2013, 03:50 AM   #65
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In the real world with me riding, I got a little better fuel economy on my Ninja 650R than I do on my Versys. Not a completely fair comparison, since I ride them differently. I expect the lower, plastic-clad Ninja has less drag.
Good point.
But up to about 60mph that shouldn't come into play much.
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:00 PM   #66
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I realize OP found a bike, but this MCN video looks at this bike class. CB500X, NC700X, F700GS and DL650. For a beginner the overall choice was CB500X. For more experienced riders, they agreed with the OP and chose the Wee, though I think one of the testers might have preferred the BMW.
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Old 09-07-2013, 09:25 AM   #67
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What's astounding to me is that the CB500X is so much cheaper compared to the NC700X in the UK and USA, the difference here in Germany is a scant 200, but in the UK it's almost 1100! Same goes for the USA, where the MRSP differs by $1500.

As an owner of a NC700SD I'm biased and would recommend you compare the 2 bikes thoroughly before coming to a conclusion, but at those prices I'd say fuck it and go for the CB500X without a second thought. Whether the NC700X is better than the CB500X is a matter of priorities and opinion, but I'm pretty sure it's not $1500 better!
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Old 09-08-2013, 03:57 AM   #68
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What's astounding to me is that the CB500X is so much cheaper compared to the NC700X in the UK and USA, the difference here in Germany is a scant 200, but in the UK it's almost 1100! Same goes for the USA, where the MRSP differs by $1500.

As an owner of a NC700SD I'm biased and would recommend you compare the 2 bikes thoroughly before coming to a conclusion, but at those prices I'd say fuck it and go for the CB500X without a second thought. Whether the NC700X is better than the CB500X is a matter of priorities and opinion, but I'm pretty sure it's not $1500 better!
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They cost virtually the same here in Croatia.
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:00 AM   #69
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There's 750 difference here in Malta between the CB500X and the NC700X, VAT inclusive.

Oddly enough, the NC700S DCT is only 200 more than the row-your-own NC700X.

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Old 09-10-2013, 03:39 PM   #70
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There's 750 difference here in Malta between the CB500X and the NC700X, VAT inclusive.

Oddly enough, the NC700S DCT is only 200 more than the row-your-own NC700X.

http://www.gordonsmoto.com/viewNewBikes.php?make=Honda
Yeah the difference between the -S and -X was about 500 when I bought mine, and the DCT was 1000, so the NC700SD (with the D for DCT+ABS) was only about 500 more than the NC700XA (with ABS)
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:01 PM   #71
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I test rode the CB500X and the NC700X. I ended up buying the NC700X. The weight felt about equal, probably due to the NC's lower CG. The 700 is easier to ride in traffic, due to better low end torque and low-revving engine. The NC trunk really comes in handy, too (CB does not have it).
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Old 10-24-2013, 12:39 AM   #72
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I test rode the CB500X and the NC700X. I ended up buying the NC700X. The weight felt about equal, probably due to the NC's lower CG. The 700 is easier to ride in traffic, due to better low end torque and low-revving engine. The NC trunk really comes in handy, too (CB does not have it).
I was beginning to think that I was alone with this view, but other then the
price difference (which is small locally), I'd always pick the 700 before, it
seems better built to me, I love it's torque and that low CG is the big
selling point for me, it feels lighter then my FZ6 which is 80lbs lighter
actually!

I just wish it had a few more hp.
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Old 10-24-2013, 08:17 AM   #73
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The only time I've actually done the math & checked, I got 55 MPGs out of my Daughters 500F going 60-75 the whole time. Honda claims 71 MPGs for the 500 series & it "might" get that if you keep it under 55 mph.

The 700X is probably the better "real world" bike but, the 500 pulls nicely (almost hard) from 5,000 - 8,500 RPM. & the 500 can get similar MPGs to the 700X if you were to ride it softly on back roads.

The 500 is very torquey & you won't stall it idling along at 1,700 RPM but, if you want quick acceleration you need 5,000 rpm or more.

Which one is better for you depends on what your looking for in a motorcycle. If price was the same, the 700X would win regardless IMO.
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Old 10-25-2013, 04:40 AM   #74
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That is the one thing i would have liked from the V is better MPG. but it's still better than a versys. and a car. haha. i feel like the Vstrom has better wind protection as well.

I get 55 mpg on my Versys . . . . 68 mpg on my CB5X . . . Both bikes Ridden briskly:

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Old 10-25-2013, 06:03 AM   #75
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I constantly get 70mpg doing 70mph on the Interstate (and I ride a lot on the interstate-commute to work is a must) on my NC700x. Labor Day weekend, I while riding in the Smokies, I was getting 80+ mpg; this was on the Dragon, Cherohola, the Hell Bender and over the mountain from Cherokee to Gatlinberg. I bought the 700x for the economy bike it is and I will easily recoup the difference in price between the cb500x and the NC700x just by the miles I ride (I bought the bike in June and now I have over 6000 miles on the bike). I haven't seen any one reporting they can get 70mpg doing 70mph on the Interstate on the CB500 series and no where near 80mpg doing 40-45mph. By the way, I keep mileage records on the NC700 and can post them if anyone is interested.
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