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Old 09-07-2013, 08:47 AM   #631
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I wouldn't cancel a short trip over a weeping water-pump, I'd just pack some antifreeze along and keep an eye on the engine temperature and fluid level.
Sure, "it could fail at anytime", but any part can do that.
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Old 09-07-2013, 09:09 AM   #632
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I wouldn't cancel a short trip over a weeping water-pump, I'd just pack some antifreeze along and keep an eye on the engine temperature and fluid level.
Sure, "it could fail at anytime", but any part can do that.
In this case the odds are in favor of a failure. If you've ever been stranded by a broken bike with no parts available you might have a different view.

A few years ago the ignition switch on my FJR failed while on the road, 900 miles from home. i was 10 miles from a dealer, they picked up the bike, took it to the shop, then dropped me at a near by motel. Switches were back order and the dealer spent a day trying to locate one with no luck. They then removed one for a bike on the showroom floor to get me back on the road, no charge, my bike was still under warranty.The next week I received a recall notice from Yamaha on the switch. That's great customer service!

I just don't see BMW providing this kind of customer service. If I were the op, I to would cancel the trip.

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Old 09-07-2013, 09:11 AM   #633
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I wouldn't cancel.
Would be a good time to see if that percentage of air-cooling is good enough for non-high-performance riding.
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Old 09-07-2013, 09:19 AM   #634
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In this case the odds are in favor of a failure. If you've ever been stranded by a broken bike with no parts available you might have a different view.
Horseshit.
I've been stranded and rented a truck to get me and the bike home and I've also flown home while repairs were made, and I've jerry-rigged a few repairs to get me through.
Hard to believe that some people on this forum fancy themselves as adventure riders, lots of over-conservative advice.
A break-down is part of the adventure.
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Old 09-07-2013, 09:29 AM   #635
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That is true, but going to the left or right when trying to go straight is in most cases the road shape, and in the others a mix of uneven tire wear or twisted forks. Both easy to fix.

It's rarely ever the frame.
I've had a dozen or two BMW bikes since 1971, K and R bikes, and I would say that only two or three of them went straight. New tires, measured forks according to the book. The latest two, a K12S and the latest a 2012 R12GS go straight. Don't tell me it's the road :)
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:38 PM   #636
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Trip is canceled. I need a new water pump and they are back ordered until the middle of October which probably really means the middle of winter. The tech said I could ride it local keeping in mind that the water pump could totally fail at any time.
FYI. The K1600 has the same issue and I rode mine 1500 miles round trip to Indy and back with a weeping water pump. Kept an eye on the coolant level and never did have to top it off. Still riding it until my replacement comes in.
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Old 09-07-2013, 03:29 PM   #637
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Horseshit.
I've been stranded and rented a truck to get me and the bike home and I've also flown home while repairs were made, and I've jerry-rigged a few repairs to get me through.
Hard to believe that some people on this forum fancy themselves as adventure riders, lots of over-conservative advice.
A break-down is part of the adventure.
Haha, you sir are a legend, clearly cut of McGyver cloth, lol.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:36 PM   #638
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Trip is canceled. I need a new water pump and they are back ordered until the middle of October which probably really means the middle of winter. The tech said I could ride it local keeping in mind that the water pump could totally fail at any time.
Weeping antifreeze from the waterpump "breather" hole is an indication of bearing seal failure. Since anti-freeze is miserable as a lubricant, bearing failure will eventually occur. There is a way to hold off this failure for quite some time. I don't know if you want to do this, but it may help someone who gets the same symptom with no chance of a quick repair part. You add a healthy amount of water-soluble cutting oil to your radiator. This adds lubricant to your cooling fluid to keep the bearing alive until it can be replaced.

In one of my many past lives, I worked for a bearing manufacturer that made a great deal of water pump bearings (mostly for trucks) and we knew of this "band-aid".

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Old 09-07-2013, 08:04 PM   #639
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Horseshit.
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A break-down is part of the adventure.
Horseshit to you to!
Not everyone's as big a man as you.......In the ego department Mr Knarley Adventure Rider.

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Old 09-08-2013, 01:33 AM   #640
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How the hell can these clowns release a new bike and have no parts in stock???

I could understand if it was a cheap price of shit or a low volume seller but I spent top dollar for mine as has everyone else and thought I bought the whole package, quality, reliability, performance, dealer network & service.

For fucks sake BMW pull your damn finger out!!
Well there are many excuses to this.
First of all exactly that it is a new bike.
They don't even know what parts will be needed most.
Also you are on the other side of the planet relative to their factory.
Parts keep getting updated this early in production, so stocking a part that gets replaced by new version in a month is stupid.
Also, distributors cannot be forced to stock everything (only something). It is a cost for them too, they are not getting parts for free.

If you want a product with bugs squashed and well stocked in parts, buy a second or third year model (in anything).
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Old 09-08-2013, 03:33 AM   #641
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buying a new version of an old model should bring you to :

* less problems,
* less fuel consumption,
* more reliability,
* more functionnalities
* etc etc

I don't understand your reasoning :

"buy new & expensive and it's normal you will get problems"

I thought that buying new meant the opposite : less issues....
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Old 09-08-2013, 03:53 AM   #642
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Yes if buying a new iteration of an existing product.
Like when I bought the last 100HP version just before the 105HP version.
They were already in the third revision of their shaft system, without even saying so. They had dumped the servo-brakes again without making an announcement about that (IIRC). We were still version 1, but more like version 1.5.

Then the 105HP (which was also a facelift model) could have some minor issues. The 110HP could have some different.

The LC version is a different bike sharing the same name. I doubt there is a single bolt sharing the part number with the last model.

Actually just checking realoem.com someone can see the different versions and when something evolved or changed completely.

This is a new bike on the same concept of the last. Not an update.
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Old 09-08-2013, 04:04 AM   #643
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I thought this was true even with new models...

I realize how much I've been naive until now...

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why do you think NLS didn't bought a new GS LC...
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Old 09-08-2013, 05:02 AM   #645
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Horseshit to you to!
Not everyone's as big a man as you.......In the ego department Mr Knarley Adventure Rider.

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