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Old 09-03-2013, 12:04 AM   #76
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My 950 SE is the best bike I've owned to date and is the perfect mixture of offroad and road capable for me. Taken me through baja twice and will again in October. 1100 miles all dirt besides maybe 100 of it. Got it in street ridden only condition three years ago with only 3100 miles for $8500. Probably could sell it for more than that now. If you find a nice one my advice is jump on it before someone else does. Might require a fly and ride though.
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Old 09-03-2013, 06:13 PM   #77
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:55 AM   #78
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Old 09-05-2013, 04:09 AM   #79
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I crashed my SE so many times it should have side wheels.
After replacing the decals, handguards and footpegs the bike is almost new again.

Wonder what damage will happen when the 1190R topples over.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:15 AM   #80
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I crashed my SE so many times it should have side wheels.
After replacing the decals, handguards and footpegs the bike is almost new again.

Wonder what damage will happen when the 1190R topples over.
I'm in the same boat - my SE is amazingly crashworthy as it has come out of some better than I I may have been the most featured rider in Riceless 950's victims thread. My SE has an aftermarket skidplate and lever guards, that's it. Even with the engine armor on the ADV's they look more susceptible to damage though Riceless950 certainly put his 950ADV through alot. My first thought when seeing the 1190 was it's beautiful followed shortly by "I wonder how long it would look beautiful after I owned it?"

For the OP, it sounds like the SE is what you're looking for. I have done many thousands of miles on the pavement when I had to (like riding home to southern California from Miami after returning from a South America trip). It wasn't a bad ride though I do have a Lynx "fairing" which helps. And I've done thousands of miles of "offroad" (really off pavement) in Baja (including the 1000 race course) and up here in Montana.

The one bad thing I will say about the SE is that the suspension is crude. But it seems just about everyone modifies their offroad suspension no matter the bike so that may not matter to you. I've heard the ADV suspension is more tuneable but can't say from experience since every ADV I've ridden was someone else's and figured it wasn't polite to start fiddling with the clickers.

You'll have fun no matter what bike you chose.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:54 AM   #81
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I'm in the same boat - my SE is amazingly crashworthy as it has come out of some better than I I may have been the most featured rider in Riceless 950's victims thread. My SE has an aftermarket skidplate and lever guards, that's it. Even with the engine armor on the ADV's they look more susceptible to damage though Riceless950 certainly put his 950ADV through alot. My first thought when seeing the 1190 was it's beautiful followed shortly by "I wonder how long it would look beautiful after I owned it?"

For the OP, it sounds like the SE is what you're looking for. I have done many thousands of miles on the pavement when I had to (like riding home to southern California from Miami after returning from a South America trip). It wasn't a bad ride though I do have a Lynx "fairing" which helps. And I've done thousands of miles of "offroad" (really off pavement) in Baja (including the 1000 race course) and up here in Montana.

The one bad thing I will say about the SE is that the suspension is crude. But it seems just about everyone modifies their offroad suspension no matter the bike so that may not matter to you. I've heard the ADV suspension is more tuneable but can't say from experience since every ADV I've ridden was someone else's and figured it wasn't polite to start fiddling with the clickers.

You'll have fun no matter what bike you chose.
The rear shock on the SE is the same basic unit from a KTM 85. The LC8 Adv unit is a much nicer PDS unit.
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Old 09-08-2013, 01:02 PM   #82
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I'm in the same boat - my SE is amazingly crashworthy as it has come out of some better than I I may have been the most featured rider in Riceless 950's victims thread. My SE has an aftermarket skidplate and lever guards, that's it. Even with the engine armor on the ADV's they look more susceptible to damage though Riceless950 certainly put his 950ADV through alot. My first thought when seeing the 1190 was it's beautiful followed shortly by "I wonder how long it would look beautiful after I owned it?"

For the OP, it sounds like the SE is what you're looking for. I have done many thousands of miles on the pavement when I had to (like riding home to southern California from Miami after returning from a South America trip). It wasn't a bad ride though I do have a Lynx "fairing" which helps. And I've done thousands of miles of "offroad" (really off pavement) in Baja (including the 1000 race course) and up here in Montana.

The one bad thing I will say about the SE is that the suspension is crude. But it seems just about everyone modifies their offroad suspension no matter the bike so that may not matter to you. I've heard the ADV suspension is more tuneable but can't say from experience since every ADV I've ridden was someone else's and figured it wasn't polite to start fiddling with the clickers.

You'll have fun no matter what bike you chose.
SE forks are better, more travel and better stock valving. Shame they didn't put the good PDS of a 950S ADV on those. If I can get our buddy Brewcito to do this loop of Mexico we're planning, we could meet up and do a suspension comparison in Bajajaja. He's had Bruce Triplet do the terrain tamer mod to his SE forks like the EXC he had last time there, one side compression and one side rebound. Says its awesome. Think he swapped o an ADV shock too.


IMHO, the 1190 is a far better BMW GS. Speaking of which, could you guys get back to bashing GS's instead of all this interorange infighting?
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