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Old 09-22-2013, 12:52 AM   #166
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wow, don't think ill be trying that....
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Old 09-22-2013, 01:53 AM   #167
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wow, don't think ill be trying that....
Easier on a narrow bike
Getting my boxer thru was scary
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We put the rocks down to get some traction
Very soft
Oh the river crossing was a bit tricky too
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:05 AM   #168
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Wasn't the rock leaning against the cliff a while ago? looks as if it has now fallen over?
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:11 AM   #169
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Wasn't the rock leaning against the cliff a while ago? looks as if it has now fallen over?
Yeh just lying there
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:36 AM   #170
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Stuff like this depresses me about Australia's these days

50 years ago a bunch of army sappers would have been up there for some "training" and in no time the problem would have been solved

Our can do is now a bunch of red tape

How many years has that been there now......

Wheres mythbusters when you need em
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:52 AM   #171
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Stuff like this depresses me about Australia's these days

50 years ago a bunch of army sappers would have been up there for some "training" and in no time the problem would have been solved

Our can do is now a bunch of red tape

How many years has that been there now......

Wheres mythbusters when you need em
Workcover will fix it.
Lol
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:54 AM   #172
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I rode down the track a few months ago (two of the mates were on sports bikes) I thought a good sized steel plate or two could be dropped close with the use of a ute then dragged up by bike and manhandled into position.

The bikes still being able to use the track can only be good for the town.

PS; when I came through the gate at the Bathurst end looked locked but it was not and could not be locked.
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Old 09-22-2013, 04:41 PM   #173
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We were there last Tuesday in the rain. Very wet and slippery. All on big bikes. All for the sake of one rock. Perhaps some 4x4 with winches and decent recovery tackle could unlodge the rock and sort it out and move it only a few feet from the inside cliff face. That is all that's need, Living in QLD we are just two far away to help. As has been said before it would be a terrible shame that lack of activity closed this great piece of history.
The idea of a ramp /bridge over the gap might work until some wonderful piece of humanity steals said bridge.

Maybe a mob of competition rock drillers might need some training. Not the whole rock just enough on the cliff side

The alternate route up to Hill End wasn't too bad but no where near as good as the Bridle Track.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:21 PM   #174
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...............so why don't we do something about it?

I think the Army might show an interest as after all they built the bleeding thing back during the war. I'll see if I can find a contact and ask em. It could be good publicity, all that community stuff etc.

Failing that which Council owns the road Bathurst Council?

And failing that maybe it would be a good excuse for some keen (and knowledgeable) ADVers to have a get together? Maybe in conjunction with a 4X4 club?

It'd be a shame to see this once popular road not able to be used because of one bloody rock.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:53 PM   #175
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Used to ride with an old fella that rode in Oregon and Washington state ( USA ). He said that if a boulder got in the way they would return and dynamite it.

Anyone got the gear and game? Gotta be better than letting history go by the wayside.

Or what about shoring up with timber. Working bee??
You tried getting any explosives lately ?? Ah the good ole days when one could go to the local Elders etc store and get a six pack of gelignite to shift a stump or rock.....
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Old 09-22-2013, 08:24 PM   #176
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Hydraulics

The way I see it;


Too unstable for heavy equipment.
That rock came from unstable ground up high, so blasting could make it worst.
We need to move the rock over the edge, Hydraulics is the way to go.



Put a 8 ton bottle jack or two between the cliff face & rock, push it out, release, pack with sleepers, repeat.
The hard part is getting the sleepers & jacks up there (heavy).


P.S. OldDog, read your signature mate, my condolences.
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Old 09-22-2013, 11:28 PM   #177
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Yeah a porta-power would should work chuck it on a quad bike or across a big bike in a few parts even and slip(no pun intended) up there shift the rock a bit to let bikes through and the jobs right. If not the jack out of a press should work side ways.

Might need a sleeper or a slab of metal to spread the load on the opposing cliff face from where the jack force will be obtained to shift the problem rock in question


I am thinking that it would be passable by bikes being careful after the moving has occurred however 4 by4s might have had their day. Its a long way down if it all goes pear shaped

Combined Thinking outside the box and Lateral thinking works. The rock removal fairies just turned up and fixed the problem Sweet.
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Old 09-22-2013, 11:34 PM   #178
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I just had a thought re moving heavy stuff up the hill. Those little single axle trolleys that house re stumpers use would do the job (on the way up at least). A tie down rapped around the front of the sleeper and gravity will keep it tight.
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Old 09-22-2013, 11:37 PM   #179
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The Bathurst council are now happy they have one less road to maintain so even if we get it cleared they are not likely to re-open it.
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Old 09-22-2013, 11:39 PM   #180
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Yeah a porta-power would should work chuck it on a quad bike or across a big bike in a few parts even and slip(no pun intended) up there shift the rock a bit to let bikes through and the jobs right. If not the jack out of a press should work side ways.

Might need a sleeper or a slab of metal to spread the load on the opposing cliff face from where the jack force will be obtained to shift the problem rock in question


I am thinking that it would be passable by bikes being careful after the moving has occurred however 4 by4s might have had their day. Its a long way down if it all goes pear shaped

Combined Thinking outside the box and Lateral thinking works. The rock removal fairies just turned up and fixed the problem Sweet.
its a pretty heavy rock to move.
maybe a couple of generators
and kango's
just break it up next to the cliff
not all the way
just enough to use the debris
as a ramp on each side
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knew those atv's must be good for something
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