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Old 09-20-2013, 10:35 PM   #1
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Question Question re 1190 Spec in US 2014

Morning All from sunny Dubai.

I'm about to pull the trigger on an 1190 R but have seen reference in some online reviews to the US 2014 Spec being a little different to the 1st Gen Euro 2013 spec. There've been a few issues on the 1st Gen (to be expected) and I'm wondering if there is anyone in the know re what the aforementioned 2014 US spec is all about in terms of any improvements? If they're significant I might just wait a few more months and get the latest version?

Anyone got any solid input?

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Old 09-21-2013, 12:51 AM   #2
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What specifications do you mean? Weight, power, etc?

I had a testride yesterday first time on a 1190 (without R) and had a biiiiiiig smile in my face when I gave the bike back. However: both front idicators were defective, as was the front tyre pressure gauge (or the pressure was really low). I know of another 1190 (R), which belongs to the friend of a friend which waits now for diagnoses about infrequently stalling engine, it can't be restarted. Saw the bike last week totally disassembled at my local KTM dealer. Looked more like a big bicycle, without the engine!

So I guess there are some issues, as with many new products today!
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Old 09-21-2013, 12:56 AM   #3
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What specifications do you mean? Weight, power, etc?

I had a testride yesterday first time on a 1190 (without R) and had a biiiiiiig smile in my face when I gave the bike back. However: both front idicators were defective, as was the front tyre pressure gauge (or the pressure was really low). I know of another 1190 (R), which belongs to the friend of a friend which waits now for diagnoses about infrequently stalling engine, it can't be restarted. Saw the bike last week totally disassembled at my local KTM dealer. Looked more like a big bicycle, without the engine!

So I guess there are some issues, as with many new products today!
I simply mean addressing faults identified to date...heat, side stand springs, faults with LED lights etc
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Old 09-21-2013, 02:25 AM   #4
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Anyone got any solid input?
I've already put it in another thread, but it might be useful to know. Not "solid input" by any means, though.
In the comments of this Google+ post:

https://plus.google.com/106761503602...ts/VFVgD3cR43T

KTM says that the US 2014 will have "a brand new (and useful) feature never seen before on any motorcycle though."
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Old 09-24-2013, 08:22 AM   #5
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KTM says that the US 2014 will have "a brand new (and useful) feature never seen before on any motorcycle though."
Indeed, they are refering to the so called MSC (motorcycle stability control).
I read that will be part of the standard equipment for the Adventure/R 2014 models.
Also, I read that KTM gives the possibility to existing 2013 models to install it (from December) with additional cost.

http://www.bosch-motorcycle.com/en/u...y_control.html

There is a video in the bottom part of the page, it describes the principle and function of the MSC.
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Old 09-24-2013, 08:51 AM   #6
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Just seen a KTM advert in the last digital issue of CycleWorld, it mentions the "revolutionary Bosch cornering ABS package".
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Old 09-24-2013, 08:53 AM   #7
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Just seen a KTM advert in the last digital issue of CycleWorld, it mentions the "revolutionary Bosch cornering ABS package".
We are talking about the same.
It combines ABS and stability control / cornering.

check this video how it works:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1CDN6el4zM
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We are talking about the same.
I know.
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:23 AM   #9
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I think this OP has been answered. The MSC will be the only change (other than recalled items) IMO
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Old 09-25-2013, 06:30 AM   #10
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There is also talks of 2014 bikes getting higher spring rates.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:22 AM   #11
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We are talking about the same.
It combines ABS and stability control / cornering.

check this video how it works:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1CDN6el4zM
Another product turning riders into steerers, while some of these may be useful to a point it does not allow for diesel on a tight turn, fine powder shingle on a hard surface on a tight turn etc in which in reality the computer has no control over until it is too late.

Also a whole lot to go wrong thus further sending ADV bikes in different directions, technology can be a curse and the further away from sophisticated dealership diagnostics the worse it gets....something to be said for our basic bikes

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