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Old 09-21-2013, 03:03 AM   #1876
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If they are that bad it sounds like you have a bigger problem, but you could start by the backflush.

DOT 5.1 and leave a 12mm gap in the Master cyl.

Correct free play at pedal to ensure piston is uncovering port. (you'll know during the back flush).

Still no joy then You'll have to tear into it.

Fit repair kits. Service the mounting pins. Check disc for warp. Check rear wheel spacers.

Have fun.
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Old 09-21-2013, 06:21 AM   #1877
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If they are that bad it sounds like you have a bigger problem, but you could start by the backflush.
DOT 5.1 and leave a 12mm gap in the Master cyl.
Correct free play at pedal to ensure piston is uncovering port. (you'll know during the back flush).
Still no joy then You'll have to tear into it.
Fit repair kits. Service the mounting pins. Check disc for warp. Check rear wheel spacers.
Have fun.
... and condition of pads. They need to bed, as well. As an aside, my rear brake has always been a bit "wooden" in feel. It gets the job done, but nothing spectacular.
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Old 09-21-2013, 08:42 AM   #1878
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hi
I read somewhere about a 690 screen fitting a SE or something like that anyway.
I do like a bit of wind protection.
Or anything else that would do the trick.
These will work:

http://www.laminarlip.com/supermoto.php


The tall 950 SM shield installed on my bike:







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Old 09-21-2013, 08:47 AM   #1879
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those "bubbles"on the top of oil level....are normal.
Mine does the same
Mine does it after each oil change. Had a KTM tech look at it and he says it's normal right after an oil change.
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Old 09-21-2013, 09:13 AM   #1880
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Hello from Boise.

I left San Francisco a couple days ago. I road up the PCH to Portland, then over to Boise. I have about 900 miles so far on the trip, but my bike is continuing to use coolant. I'm just hoping it will hold together without any permanent damage until I get home to Minnesota. Long way to go though.

I made it to a buddy's place here in Boise, so I'm going to borrow his garage and pull the clutch cover to see if I can find any tell tale signs of water pump failure.

Here is what I know so far.
A. I've had to had over a quart of coolant in the past 900 miles.
B. Oil appears to be fine. Level hasn't changed at all. Filter is not wavy.
C. Radiator cap seems suspect. The black cap (on the radiator cap) that goes to the coolant reservoir seems suspect. It's a really loose fit, and I can get coolant to ooze out from it by just moving it around. Is this normal?
D. I'm not smelling any coolant leaks and I'm not seeing any wet spots on the motor or around the head gaskets.
E. When I pulled the tank last weekend, I noticed a non-stock hose clamp on the upper left radiator hose, just above the fan/temp switch. That's suspect as well, but I'll have to get the bike up to operating temperature to really identify a slow coolant leak. Tough to do with the tank off.

I'm basically choosing a route home that parallels Amtrak. Worst case, I throw the bike in a Uhaul and take it back to my workshop for a full tear down. Of course, I'd love to figure this out while on the road though!
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Mine does it after each oil change. Had a KTM tech look at it and he says it's normal right after an oil change.
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Old 09-21-2013, 12:13 PM   #1881
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Well, I'm embarassed to admit that it was the very common water pump failure. I didn't have any of the other symptoms though. But I think the image below is self explanatory.... Fortunately, I have a spare fuel pump and water pump kit with me. I don't have any tools here at my friends house, but there is a KTM shop in town that is very helpful, so I'll just take in the right side engine plate and let them install the new one.

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Old 09-21-2013, 02:04 PM   #1882
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Well, I'm embarassed to admit that it was the very common water pump failure. I didn't have any of the other symptoms though. But I think the image below is self explanatory.... Fortunately, I have a spare fuel pump and water pump kit with me. I don't have any tools here at my friends house, but there is a KTM shop in town that is very helpful, so I'll just take in the right side engine plate and let them install the new one.

Not necessarily, are you loosing coolant? Moisture that naturally acours in the engine just condences on the coolest parts, and that give gunk....

Same happens on air/oil cooled motors, but also could well be an indication of WP seal/shaft on its way out.
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Old 09-21-2013, 02:11 PM   #1883
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Not necessarily, are you loosing coolant? Moisture that naturally acours in the engine just condences on the coolest parts, and that give gunk...
You can see my post above. I was loosing a lot of coolant. 1 quart in 900 miles.

For reference, I also have a 990 Adventure that I put 50K on, never had a WP failure on it. The clutch stays dry with exception for a few drops of motor oil, so it's definitely not normal on these LC8 motors. What threw me was I didn't have any other symptoms.
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Old 09-21-2013, 03:39 PM   #1884
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You can see my post above. I was loosing a lot of coolant. 1 quart in 900 miles.

For reference, I also have a 990 Adventure that I put 50K on, never had a WP failure on it. The clutch stays dry with exception for a few drops of motor oil, so it's definitely not normal on these LC8 motors. What threw me was I didn't have any other symptoms.
Yeh sorry didn't read that bit,

Personally think to many unnecessary changes due to a bit of emulation, which is normal.

The latest shafts are a gun blue colour and the seal is grey, if your not changing the bearings it can be done easily enough in the field...no special tools needed.

Don't bother taking the impeller off before removing the case, once its off you can just undo the bolt with a flat blade on the back of the shaft. Take the rear lip off and knock the shaft out and the other clip will push the seal out. Once the shaft is out you can knock the shaft out of the impeller, that's if it didn't come off easily earlier.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:40 AM   #1885
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I have a Hyde bash thingy made out of plastic (ABS) in the rar it's supported by 2 very flimsy looking 2mm bent pieces of flat bar with captive nuts.
It's pushed forward by the center stand so that these "support are all bent outta shape and it's also deformed around the oil tank bolts(by being pushed forwards.
What to do?
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Old 09-24-2013, 08:34 AM   #1886
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I have a Hyde bash thingy made out of plastic (ABS) in the rar it's supported by 2 very flimsy looking 2mm bent pieces of flat bar with captive nuts.
It's pushed forward by the center stand so that these "support are all bent outta shape and it's also deformed around the oil tank bolts(by being pushed forwards.
What to do?
Throw it away. I had a Hyde bash plate on my new 500 and it shattered on the first ride. I don't know how they can stay in business.

Get a hold of Mike at info@mvmotoventure.ca. He's on the board here, but I've forgotten his user name. I just installed one of his skid plates on my SE last night. Nice product, good fit, no risk of oil cooler and rad damage. Pleasure to do business with, too.
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Old 09-25-2013, 02:35 AM   #1887
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Old 09-27-2013, 02:45 PM   #1888
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Old 09-27-2013, 05:58 PM   #1889
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He's a good dude making a real nice product.
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Old 10-10-2013, 01:14 PM   #1890
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Hola.....

Ok...currently have the Facet mounted to the back of my airbox....

Going to lose the airbox (rottweiler) but want to keep the Facet in the same position.

Has anyone come us with a workable mount for that spot?


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