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Old 06-05-2010, 07:19 PM   #1
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Garmin GPSMAP 62 and 78

I had a look at the recently announced GPSMAP 62 and 78 series shown on Garmin's web site to see if I could find a reason to buy one. I looked at the Garmin web site info and the Garmin manuals for the 78 (the 62 manuals are not on the web yet) and also several other web sites showing the new models.

These new models appear to be based on their predecessors, the 60 and 76, but when you look at them in detail, they are only superficially similar.

Although the displays in the new series are the same size and resolution as the older models, initial reports are that they are brighter and more readable in direct sunlight than the older models' displays. The new displays are transflective, 65-K color TFT.

The internal software in the new series is completely different and I think it is the same architecture as the Dakota/Oregon models.

I owned an Oregon 550 for several weeks before returning it to Amazon. I couldn't deal with the touch screen menu system, running up and down the menu tree all the time. I much preferred the button-initiated method on the eTrexHCx and 60CSx. The new models do not have touch screens and they use buttons just like their predecessors. Ignoring the menu system drawback on the Oregon, it had very many features which I liked a lot.

Summarizing, I like the new software/capabilities and old button scheme that are combined in the new models, so it's just a matter of choosing which to buy.

Both 62 and 78 series have: the same display; the same storage options (SD card, main memory); the same track/waypoint capability (points, tracks, etc), and the same functionality. The menus and operations appear to be the same. The main differences are the size, form factor, and button layout.

The sizes are close enough for me, so size is not a determining factor for me.

The form factor and button layout are what I think are the deciding issues for me. The 78 is basically a box and the 62 is a box with a tube. I decided that I can live with either.

That leaves the button layout. When I bought my 60, I decided I liked the buttons-below layout best and that was the reason I bought the 60. Looking at the newer models, I thought a similar decision would apply, and I would get the 62 (62s to be precise). But there is a fly in the ointment.

The Owner's Manuals for the 78 and 78s models show the ports under the weather cap:
Mini-USB - standard mini USB female port,
Serial port - Garmin round 4-pin serial port,
An unidentified round port.

The serial port looks like the same one that has been on previous Garmin models and the accessories lists for the 78 models show a round 4-pin Vehicle Power Cable and a round 4-pin Power/Data Cable. The round 4-pin connection has been found to be more rugged than the mini-USB connection by some riders, and this is what I will be looking for in the model I choose.

There are no manuals on Garmin's web site for the 62 series, so I am unable to determine if the 62 series models have the same round 4-pin port. But I did check the accessories lists for all 3 of the 62 models (62, 62s, and 62st) and none of them include any cable or adapter with round 4-pin connectors; all of the connectors are Mini-USB.

This seals the deal for me - I will get the 78 model. I'm thinking of getting the middle-of-the-line 78s because it has high-speed USB, accepts a microSD card, has 1.7GB of free memory, and I don't have to pay for pre-loaded maps. The cheaper 78 has slower USB, doesn't have the electronic compass and barometric altimeter, and can't transfer data wirelessly with other units. The more expensive 78sc has pre-loaded maps, which I don't want.

BTW, the 78 models float, but I don't consider that important where I ride.
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Old 06-05-2010, 10:39 PM   #2
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So is it fair to read from what you've researched that the new units are functionally the same as the older units, just repackaged and with more memory and newer electronics?
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Old 06-05-2010, 11:00 PM   #3
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Old 06-05-2010, 11:29 PM   #4
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So is it fair to read from what you've researched that the new units are functionally the same as the older units, just repackaged and with more memory and newer electronics?
I'd say, the same, only better.

Have a look at what the Oregon can do for a taste of what's in store:
http://garminoregon.wikispaces.com/

Custom maps is one new feature...

Excellent Hands on test of the 78s:
http://gpstracklog.com/2010/05/hands...psmap-78s.html
There is a lot of information in the 'Comments' section.

Another good page showing the internals:
http://www.gpsfix.net/gpsmap78-internal-2/

Last one, I promise:
http://www.gpsfix.net/garmin-gpsmap-78-impressions-1/


I just ordered a 78s from Big River - $376.23 and free shipping. MSRP $499.99; saved $73.76

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Old 06-06-2010, 08:53 AM   #5
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You can also upload photos to it and use them as maps. That will be a very cool feature, the one I'm most interested in in fact.
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Old 06-10-2010, 04:16 PM   #6
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Does it use the same power cord as the 60?
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Old 06-10-2010, 05:08 PM   #7
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Does it use the same power cord as the 60?
Looks like 78 uses 60/76 power cord, 62 uses USB with external power supply. Like RMAZ said, show stoper for 62.

Now that Rick is retired he seams to buy ever new toy that comes out!
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:15 PM   #8
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Still no manual for the 62 posted but I'll go out on a limb......

I bet the 62 will have the 4 pin round same as the 78!

Takers? Jerry??

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Old 06-10-2010, 06:20 PM   #9
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Still no manual for the 62 posted but I'll go out on a limb......

I bet the 62 will have the 4 pin round same as the 78!

Takers? Jerry??

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Sure, what are steaks and spread?
You said it.....Steaks!
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Bluhduh 62 vs 78

Hi guys,
I just saw these posts from a few years ago.

I have a worn-out 60 and have JUST replaced it with the 62st, but I now find it doesn't have the 4-pin power connector....arghhhh...
I didn't think of the 78s as an option until AFTER buying the 62st.
However it just arrived and I could swap it.

Any input?
Looking at other forums it seems the antenna reception is about the same, as well as software.

I guess I'm wondering if the USB power connection is going to give me hassles.
I use it off-road/touring on my BMW HP2 Enduro (powered to 12v), as well as my mountainbike (not powered then).

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Old 09-28-2013, 11:39 AM   #12
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WOW, digging up old threads and it had to be this one!
Jerry, I owe you a steak!

Mini USB = Roll of the dice.

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Old 09-28-2013, 06:55 PM   #13
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However it just arrived and I could swap it.

Any input?
Swap it!
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Old 09-28-2013, 07:10 PM   #14
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Hi guys,
I just saw these posts from a few years ago.

I have a worn-out 60 and have JUST replaced it with the 62st, but I now find it doesn't have the 4-pin power connector....arghhhh...
I didn't think of the 78s as an option until AFTER buying the 62st.
However it just arrived and I could swap it.

Any input?
Looking at other forums it seems the antenna reception is about the same, as well as software.

I guess I'm wondering if the USB power connection is going to give me hassles.
I use it off-road/touring on my BMW HP2 Enduro (powered to 12v), as well as my mountainbike (not powered then).

Thanks,
Alan Jarvis
Sheffield, UK
Yes, return the 62. I bought a 62S a few years ago and regretted it ever since, so when a 78S showed up at a local pawn shop I bought it, sold the 62, and had $100 left over afterwards. Win, win!
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Old 09-28-2013, 07:45 PM   #15
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62 vs 78

I spent many hours researching just this issue and just bought the 78 over the 62 for the same reason.
I would swap it if possible myself.
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