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Old 09-19-2013, 07:01 PM   #1
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Portugal and Spain... Our first adventure!

Hello everyone,

My wife and I have booked a trip to Lisbon, Portugal for our belated honeymoon. We're from Massachusetts. It turns out, after I street legalized my Honda CRF450R, my wife loves riding on the back (sweet!). Since then, I've rented a Harley in Martha's Vineyard. We had a blast riding around all day. Because of that, and with a few other small day trips we took with a borrowed bike, we decided to rent an F800gs for the week in Lisbon.

We'll have the bike for only 4.5 days mid October. We mostly plan to play it by ear but here's what I'm thinking:

Day 1: Lisbon to Evora to Seville (7hrs mostly back roads)
Day 2: Seville to Gibraltar (3.5hrs via back roads)
Day 3:Gibraltar to Faro (4hrs, highway)
Day 4: Faro to Lisbon (3hrs)
Day 5: I have to drop off the bike at 6pm, so if theres a particularly nice ride in the Lisbon area, please fill me in! Otherwise we'll probably just get lost for a few hours.

I did set up an international data plan for my cellphone (galaxy Note II). I have a handlebar mount for it and I bought a usb power adapter for the bike, so we'll be using that for navigation. I'm a little nervous about losing cell service, and gogle maps doesnt seem to allow me to download maps for offline use outside of the US for some reason. I'll probably just get a map as backup when I'm over there.

Any advice or ideas is greatly welcomed. If there are any scenic or fun to ride on roads to and from these areas, please let us know! We didn't pick these areas for any particular reason, so hey, if you want to suggest something else completely, go for it! The bike does have street tires and the rental agreement states I shouldn't ride offroad, so unfortunately I'm stuck on the pavement.


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Old 09-20-2013, 04:28 AM   #2
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"day 5": I liked Ride from Lisabon to Cabo Roca (coastal road there and inland back, I got "directions" from local, and I don't remember exact roads) .
You rent from "motoxplorers" ? They can help you with suggestions.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:37 AM   #3
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For the last night, Downtown Lisbon is absolutely beautiful at night. Also on Wednesday eve (I think it's the second Wed. of the month) there is a meetup @ Motoxplorers. They are in Lumiar. Not far from the airport, and just a block off the subway line. You can explore the area northwest of the city. Its a national park, and there is an old castle there. Can't remember the name, Sintas, or something like that. When riding in Europe ( or many places for that matter) thier driving style is very differant. You need to have your game on! No relaxed driving style there. They are good drivers, but they push hard. There is a reason they don't have coffee cups in thier cars. You need to be alert and not taking time for dealing with a coffee cup. No low riders there.
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:12 AM   #4
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Thanks for the replies.

I'm picking up the bike on an evening before "day 1" so I think we'll do what you, oldmanb777, suggest and ride around downtown Lisbon that night. How easy is it to ride around on a Friday night?

Unfortunately, I'm dropping the bike off the 2nd Wednesday evening!

Francs, my wife mentioned Cabo Roca, so maybe we'll do that on the last day.

I'm renting from imtbikes. I didn't do any research, just quickly found them on Google. I was hoping to rent a 1200GS as I'm thinking about buying a big adventurer to supplement my 450, but it looks like I'll end up with an 800. I recently found Motoxplorers, via other forum posts, I kinda wished I rented from them, but it's a little late now. Their website also doesn't appear to have an English option (Google translate only works so well).

I am aware of the way Europeans drive. I've spent a lot of time in Germany, France and Switzerland for work and I much prefer their assertive driving styles... especially compared to us reckless massholes.


One other thing, I don't really know how warm I need to pack. We've only done any highway riding in the heat of summer, so I'm not good at judging what I need you wear arty different temperatures. Are jeans warm enough for riding in Portugal in October? I don't own any adventure riding gear at the moment (although if this trip goes particularly well....) My wife tends to over pack, and usually it's worthless stuff, so I'm trying to be better about this.

Thanks again guys.

(Sorry for any weird typos Swype can do some interesting things.)
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Old 09-23-2013, 03:12 AM   #5
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English version (too late but): http://www.motoxplorers.com/en/index.html
Driving style in Portugal is "different" (very different) than germany or switzerland.
Nights are cold even in summer (get something to put ower the jeans) .
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Old 09-23-2013, 07:22 AM   #6
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English version (too late but): http://www.motoxplorers.com/en/index.html
Driving style in Portugal is "different" (very different) than germany or switzerland.
Nights are cold even in summer (get something to put ower the jeans) .
Ahh, I wish I booked through these guys. I always regret making quick decisions without doing any research. I did just call the rental place I booked from and confirmed I will in fact be getting an R1200GS instead of an F800GS. Its a '12 model but oh well. They don't rent helmets and have specific pick up and drop off times.

You say the driving style is very different? Besides being cautious, is there something specific I need to know?
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Old 09-24-2013, 01:59 AM   #7
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It's a bit chaotic (Not like Milan Italy but stil) . Just be carefull. Out of towns is OK (just my opinion) .
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:39 AM   #8
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a bit late, but maybe you can still read this in time.

Riding from Lisbon to Sagres (catching the ferry in Setubal, and riding near the coast all the way down.)

In and around Lisbon, you must visit Sintra (the old part of Sintra), and it's palace and very cool Quinta da Regaleira.
Lisbon will also be very nice to visit at night :)
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Old 10-01-2013, 02:52 PM   #9
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a bit late, but maybe you can still read this in time.

Riding from Lisbon to Sagres (catching the ferry in Setubal, and riding near the coast all the way down.)

In and around Lisbon, you must visit Sintra (the old part of Sintra), and it's palace and very cool Quinta da Regaleira.
Lisbon will also be very nice to visit at night :)
We still have a week and some change before our trip. Heading over to Sagres is an intriguing idea. Since we'll be in Faro, it will be fairly easy to head over there on our way back to Lisbon. How often does the ferry come? Is it the one that goes to Tróia Peninsula (im just looking at google maps)?
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:05 AM   #10
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Hello everyone,

My wife and I have booked a trip to Lisbon, Portugal for our belated honeymoon. We're from Massachusetts. It turns out, after I street legalized my Honda CRF450R, my wife loves riding on the back (sweet!). Since then, I've rented a Harley in Martha's Vineyard. We had a blast riding around all day. Because of that, and with a few other small day trips we took with a borrowed bike, we decided to rent an F800gs for the week in Lisbon.

We'll have the bike for only 4.5 days mid October. We mostly plan to play it by ear but here's what I'm thinking:

Day 1: Lisbon to Evora to Seville (7hrs mostly back roads)
Day 2: Seville to Gibraltar (3.5hrs via back roads)
Day 3:Gibraltar to Faro (4hrs, highway)
Day 4: Faro to Lisbon (3hrs)
Day 5: I have to drop off the bike at 6pm, so if theres a particularly nice ride in the Lisbon area, please fill me in! Otherwise we'll probably just get lost for a few hours.

I did set up an international data plan for my cellphone (galaxy Note II). I have a handlebar mount for it and I bought a usb power adapter for the bike, so we'll be using that for navigation. I'm a little nervous about losing cell service, and gogle maps doesnt seem to allow me to download maps for offline use outside of the US for some reason. I'll probably just get a map as backup when I'm over there.

Any advice or ideas is greatly welcomed. If there are any scenic or fun to ride on roads to and from these areas, please let us know! We didn't pick these areas for any particular reason, so hey, if you want to suggest something else completely, go for it! The bike does have street tires and the rental agreement states I shouldn't ride offroad, so unfortunately I'm stuck on the pavement.


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I would like to give advise.
Day 4: Faro to Lisbon (3hrs) if you do this i advise riding in IC1 from faro to Grandola and enter the Highway A2 to Lisbon. The road from Grandola to Aguas de Moura ( Setubal) is in Very bad condition and is dangerous to Bikers. The roots of trees grow up, broke the tarmac and made huge bumps. Be carrefull.
In Faro if you want or need advise, ill be glad to help. Please note that the A22 Highway best know as Via do Infante is paid. It crosses all the algave from border with Spain to Lagos
The National Road 125 ( estrada Nacional 125) From Vila Real Santo Antonio to Sagres have very heavy traffic during peak hours. Attention to U-turns from car drivers.
But you can avoid this and have some fun in back rods in Serra do Caldeirão. I will look this night at an itenerary to you.
Hope i give some help. Have a safe riding

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Old 10-14-2013, 09:07 AM   #11
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a bit late, but maybe you can still read this in time.

Riding from Lisbon to Sagres (catching the ferry in Setubal, and riding near the coast all the way down.)

In and around Lisbon, you must visit Sintra (the old part of Sintra), and it's palace and very cool Quinta da Regaleira.
Lisbon will also be very nice to visit at night :)
+1 Sintra is Beautifull, "Palacio da Pena" is a must to visit.
In Faro you can visit the Old town, and drink a cocktail in " O Castelo BAR" at sunset wiyh stunning views to the Ria Formosa.
http://www.tripadvisor.com.br/Restau...t_Algarve.html

Have a boat ride to visit the caves in Albufeira if weather is good
https://www.portugal4fun.com/index.p...mart&Itemid=58
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Old 10-18-2013, 06:20 AM   #12
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We are back in the US alive and well! I have to say this was by far my favorite trip I've ever been on. You guys and the rest of this website have been very helpful! I'll post a trip update in the next couple of days in the other part of the forum.

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Old 10-21-2013, 09:18 AM   #13
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Nice to know you enjoy the trip.
Just tell us when you post your trip in Forum.
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