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Old 10-01-2013, 06:08 AM   #76
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I think Don made the A loop a little tougher this year...it isn't that I don't think a skilled rider couldn't do it on a big bike...but I would bet there would be damage (as was suffered by the R1200GSA rider) and...it would be a LONG day.
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:59 AM   #77
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Oh, it's not me. I'm not that mental! Nor skilled.

Am I correct in understanding that Sunday's A and B routes are mostly the same tracks? So there's basically only two options for Sunday; C and A/B?
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:18 AM   #78
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B Loops

I think the deciding factors for me regarding the B loop decision comes down to these questions?

1. Will there be overhanging brush and branches on the trail that would damage the windscreen ?

2. Will there be UP/OVER logs to cross without ramps?

Any input would be appreciated. I am riding F800GS.

I have one friend who says not real doable and the other I ride with regularly that says no problem. Turning the pig around on a sketchy is not a viable option without 3 or 4 men either.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:24 PM   #79
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I think the deciding factors for me regarding the B loop decision comes down to these questions?

1. Will there be overhanging brush and branches on the trail that would damage the windscreen ?

2. Will there be UP/OVER logs to cross without ramps?

Any input would be appreciated. I am riding F800GS.

I have one friend who says not real doable and the other I ride with regularly that says no problem. Turning the pig around on a sketchy is not a viable option without 3 or 4 men either.
I have been on part of the A loop and I wouldn't even consider an 800 on some of it, but you are a much better rider than I will ever be. Hell, some of the A loop is miserable on the small bike for me.

I am sure some of the other riders will chime in on this question. Good Luck, I will see you in Prescott.

Yes and Yes to questions 1 & 2. Maybe more logs now than two months ago. Maybe not........
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Old 10-01-2013, 04:49 PM   #80
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I think the deciding factors for me regarding the B loop decision comes down to these questions?

1. Will there be overhanging brush and branches on the trail that would damage the windscreen ? Possibly, but not to much on the B route.

2. Will there be UP/OVER logs to cross without ramps? There were none a couple of weeks ago when we rode the Saturday B loop.

Any input would be appreciated. I am riding F800GS.

I have one friend who says not real doable and the other I ride with regularly that says no problem. Turning the pig around on a sketchy is not a viable option without 3 or 4 men either.
The Saturday B loop has a bypass around the singletrack on the way to Crown King. There is a short section of singletrack on the second half you have to do, but it is short, fun and pretty easy.
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Old 10-01-2013, 08:59 PM   #81
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I think the deciding factors for me regarding the B loop decision comes down to these questions?

1. Will there be overhanging brush and branches on the trail that would damage the windscreen ?

2. Will there be UP/OVER logs to cross without ramps?

Any input would be appreciated. I am riding F800GS.

I have one friend who says not real doable and the other I ride with regularly that says no problem. Turning the pig around on a sketchy is not a viable option without 3 or 4 men either.
If you know what you are doing the Saturday B loop should not be too bad on a 800GS but I do hope you are running knobby tires.

There might be some vegetation across the windscreen, I really did not pay attention to that when odo'ing the course.

There were no logs that last time we rode it but there is an uphill with roots across it......at least its a straight shot up the hill.
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:02 PM   #82
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Am I correct in understanding that Sunday's A and B routes are mostly the same tracks? So there's basically only two options for Sunday; C and A/B?
The first half of the Sunday A and B routes are the same but the second half is totally different and the A's get ST while the B's do not.
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:25 PM   #83
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I have been on part of the A loop and I wouldn't even consider an 800 on some of it, but you are a much better rider than I will ever be. Hell, some of the A loop is miserable on the small bike for me.

I am sure some of the other riders will chime in on this question. Good Luck, I will see you in Prescott.

Yes and Yes to questions 1 & 2. Maybe more logs now than two months ago. Maybe not........
I definitely am not considering "A" loop but the B sounds iffy. I guess I will play it by ear when I get there!

Thanks for the vote of confidence Refokus but no matter how you look at it the F8 is a pig on single track!
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Old 10-03-2013, 06:45 AM   #84
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Ewilly! I think someone with all your 2 and 4-wheel experience it would be mandatory for you to ride the B-Loop!
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:14 AM   #85
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As of today we are at 190 entries and the limit is 225....just saying.
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Old 10-03-2013, 01:56 PM   #86
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Ewilly! I think someone with all your 2 and 4-wheel experience it would be mandatory for you to ride the B-Loop!
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:21 PM   #87
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It looks like its going to be awesome! Last year the A ride was great. Sounds like this year will be a little tougher...

Any idea what elevations should I prepare for?
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Any idea what elevations should I prepare for?
Figure in the 4500 - 6000 ft range.
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Old 10-04-2013, 09:55 AM   #89
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Btw, the ride is ON! Yes, our wonderful politicians have sent all the staff at the Prescott National Forest home but the forest is OPEN.
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Old 10-06-2013, 01:52 PM   #90
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Ok, we have reached 200 participants so there are only 20 more spots open for the ride. THANKYOU to everyone who has already registered and we are looking forward to seeing everyone in a few weeks.

If you are planning to attend but have not signed up yet, you better hurry.
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