ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Riding > Racing
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 09-27-2013, 06:28 PM   #316
HogWild
Scott Whitney
 
HogWild's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Location: SoCal USA
Oddometer: 2,542
Quote:
Originally Posted by RenoMoto View Post
Any thoughts on the format (visual design)??
The dual sport community is interested. You might get some feedback if you post the question here:
http://www.district37ama.org/forums/...ad.php?t=59747
__________________
.
New desert racing frontiers
It will be Diabolical!
HogWild is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2013, 11:17 PM   #317
RenoMoto OP
Rally Navigator
 
RenoMoto's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Sitting at My Computer
Oddometer: 210
Closer look at the Enduro Format - 2 inches wide (or so)

Inmates:

Here is a closer look at the Enduro Format, any feedback on the design?

__________________
Mike Shirley
Double Diamond Athletic Club - Reno - Nevada
500 XCW - 990 Adventure R - 690 Duke
Pics - Moto - Dakar Rally - Rally Mongolia - TAT - F1 - Sports Cars - Crap
Rally Navigator - Create, Print & Share Rally Routes with Google Earth.
RenoMoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 07:19 AM   #318
12Bong13
Gnarly Adventurer
 
12Bong13's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Location: Rouyn-Noranda, Qc
Oddometer: 163
Try to keep the same look as the 6'' version. Distance should be to the left and also more important than cap I think.

Leave text simple like 6'' version (Left, Stay left, straight...) for example.

When should we expect a beta release? Can we sign up to test?
12Bong13 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 08:27 AM   #319
DaveRMS
Beastly Adventurer
 
DaveRMS's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: San Rafael, CA
Oddometer: 1,041
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12Bong13 View Post
Try to keep the same look as the 6'' version. Distance should be to the left and also more important than cap I think.

Leave text simple like 6'' version (Left, Stay left, straight...) for example.

When should we expect a beta release? Can we sign up to test?
It's currently accessible only to "Pro" users. They are testing it for an event. We'll probably roll it out after things settle down following the Baja Rally.

All the information in the narrow version is the same as the wide version. Our approach so far is that routes should be created in wide format and printed however the user wants. So, we don't change any information between the two. Formatting is all that has to change.

Dave
DaveRMS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 10:43 AM   #320
12Bong13
Gnarly Adventurer
 
12Bong13's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Location: Rouyn-Noranda, Qc
Oddometer: 163
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveRMS View Post
It's currently accessible only to "Pro" users. They are testing it for an event. We'll probably roll it out after things settle down following the Baja Rally.

All the information in the narrow version is the same as the wide version. Our approach so far is that routes should be created in wide format and printed however the user wants. So, we don't change any information between the two. Formatting is all that has to change.

Dave
Great! Thanks for the info.
12Bong13 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 02:00 PM   #321
Deadly99
Fast and Far
 
Deadly99's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Location: Merrickville, Canada
Oddometer: 8,565
Sorta related question...Any idea what printer a guy could buy that will print out the two inch roll charts? aka not have to have folks tape sheets together...

Thanks in advance, keep up the good work
__________________
Tales From The Bivouac Rally Print Publications

TCAT (Trans Canada Adventure Trail)


Gravel Travel Canada - Canada's Source for Overland Travel
Deadly99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 04:14 PM   #322
rinho
Rinho Féroce
 
rinho's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Location: Aylmer, QC...Ottawa area
Oddometer: 1,038
Cool, I was just thinking about these 2 points, Size and printer!

Ted, I forgot to speak about that this afternoon but some Sharp "last generation" copiers can print "non-stop" (with the correct driver and latest firmware), using the by pass as paper source
But I'm affraid 2 inches is to narrow to be sure the paper is correctly pulled in a straight way (the wider the paper is the easiest)

Laser printer is good, because water resistant, but an old matrix printer epson or HP could be usefull to print roll chart

The next step will be "where to buy the paper" (2 inches, cash register is a good source)

Edit: Labels printer (Dymo) could be a good way to go but dealing with the label size to fit the roadbook may need some test
__________________
'06 950 LC8 Adv S
'92 KTM 400 LC4 (pre-serie unit)

rinho screwed with this post 09-29-2013 at 04:28 PM
rinho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 06:35 PM   #323
Bluebull2007
Adventurer
 
Bluebull2007's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Location: Lima, Perú
Oddometer: 4,941
I prefer the traditional look.

Also it would be good to be able to enter in some text on the tulip window if that is doable, like this:



Not the best example I know, but what I have noticed missing is that sometimes you have say two compressions 100m apart and you want to be able to indicate that somehow on the the same tulip diagram.
__________________
-
-
Dreaming of Dakar
Bluebull2007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 01:40 PM   #324
RenoMoto OP
Rally Navigator
 
RenoMoto's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Sitting at My Computer
Oddometer: 210
New Feature - "Reset to Zero"

Inmates:

Here is the latest Rally Navigator feature - "Reset to Zero"

Simply drag and drop the "Reset to Zero" Icon (In the Signs tab) into the proper Waypoint and Mileage is reset and recalculated.



BAM!!




Doesn't that get you PUMPED!! Maybe just a little?
__________________
Mike Shirley
Double Diamond Athletic Club - Reno - Nevada
500 XCW - 990 Adventure R - 690 Duke
Pics - Moto - Dakar Rally - Rally Mongolia - TAT - F1 - Sports Cars - Crap
Rally Navigator - Create, Print & Share Rally Routes with Google Earth.
RenoMoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 01:46 PM   #325
rinho
Rinho Féroce
 
rinho's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Location: Aylmer, QC...Ottawa area
Oddometer: 1,038
Quote:
Originally Posted by RenoMoto View Post
Inmates:

Here is the latest Rally Navigator feature - "Reset to Zero"

Simply drag and drop the "Reset to Zero" Icon (In the Signs tab) into the proper Waypoint and Mileage is reset and recalculated.
Thanks!
Easier/faster than adjusting the trip, very helpfull for those who can't
Also easier and more professional than splitting the RB in 2 or 3 parts
__________________
'06 950 LC8 Adv S
'92 KTM 400 LC4 (pre-serie unit)
rinho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2013, 02:10 PM   #326
Bluebull2007
Adventurer
 
Bluebull2007's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Location: Lima, Perú
Oddometer: 4,941
Thats a good mod! Keep them coming!!
__________________
-
-
Dreaming of Dakar
Bluebull2007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2013, 06:53 PM   #327
beechum1
Beastly Adventurer
 
beechum1's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: Herlong, CA. Look it up, I'll wait.
Oddometer: 7,360
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebull2007 View Post
I prefer the traditional look.

Also it would be good to be able to enter in some text on the tulip window if that is doable, like this:



Not the best example I know, but what I have noticed missing is that sometimes you have say two compressions 100m apart and you want to be able to indicate that somehow on the the same tulip diagram.
This came up this weekend while we were marking up our rolls at colonet. Ned mentioned that two tulips with a Δ of say a few tenths, this recommendation would have been much more convenient.
__________________
Rally Moto Kit /// Vendor Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dread Pendragon View Post
Mention to HogWild which way the wind is blowing where you're at, wait 20 minutes, and he'll post a picture of the intersection your at and a Google Earth route of how to get there.
beechum1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2013, 06:59 PM   #328
DaveRMS
Beastly Adventurer
 
DaveRMS's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: San Rafael, CA
Oddometer: 1,041
Quote:
Originally Posted by beechum1 View Post
This came up this weekend while we were marking up our rolls at colonet. Ned mentioned that two tulips with a Δ of say a few tenths, this recommendation would have been much more convenient.
You CAN enter text, just not in the middle cell yet. So, choosing to NOT include text just because it's not in the middle is not a great call. With the software "as-is" you can write (using the Baja Rally example):

"Exit wash for 100m then re-enter wash"

Then while marking the roadbook you could make your own annotation.

I'm not making excuses for not having the feature, but just saying that not having it perfect isn't an excuse for not including the correct information either.

Dave
DaveRMS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2013, 07:44 PM   #329
Bluebull2007
Adventurer
 
Bluebull2007's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Location: Lima, Perú
Oddometer: 4,941
Quote:
Originally Posted by beechum1 View Post
This came up this weekend while we were marking up our rolls at colonet. Ned mentioned that two tulips with a Δ of say a few tenths, this recommendation would have been much more convenient.
Yip. Describing what the route should look like is not equal to a 1,000 words so its all about the tulip IMO.

Dave, its a revolutionary product - we are just trying to improve on that, and there is no harm in that....apart form hours and hours of programming probably!

I was once heavily involved with some 3D mining software development and adapting it based on feedback from the engineers that have to use it everyday was a critical factor that ultimately lead the company to taking the market by storm. Software development is a process that does not stop, but with time makes a very comprehensive and powerful product that becomes more valuable, also with time. Obviously a balanced approach is also important, or you can end up with something that is more difficult and cumbersome to use!


Beechum: Now that I have used this product for a couple of longish stages, I have been thinking about a couple other things that might be worth taking a look at:

Sometimes its very hard/impossible to fit the shape of the road using just the three editable points and one fixed one that is allocated to each tulip. The ability to insert a fifth point would solve these situation and allow for more complex looking tulips. Not sure how hard this would be to do? Perhaps the way to do it is to edit the bottom part of the main route (from the dot up to the middle), by simply dragging the middle part of the tulip (top of the line circled in yellow below):


It would be great if the all the pictures that are dragged and dropped were defaulted to 80% of their current size, it would speed up the editing required in very cluttered tulips.

The option to choose km versus miles still shows miles in the left column (albeit in small writing), any chance of dropping that out?

Cheers!

Neil
__________________
-
-
Dreaming of Dakar
Bluebull2007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2013, 08:02 PM   #330
DaveRMS
Beastly Adventurer
 
DaveRMS's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: San Rafael, CA
Oddometer: 1,041
Neil, can you show us a pic of what you want the tulip to look like in your yellow example? I am having trouble visualizing it.

BTW, I agree with the text-in-tulip suggestion.

We also have an "upload custom tulip/icon" feature in the pipeline. That will handle all the edge cases.

Dave

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebull2007 View Post
Yip. Describing what the route should look like is not equal to a 1,000 words so its all about the tulip IMO.

Dave, its a revolutionary product - we are just trying to improve on that, and there is no harm in that....apart form hours and hours of programming probably!

I was once heavily involved with some 3D mining software development and adapting it based on feedback from the engineers that have to use it everyday was a critical factor that ultimately lead the company to taking the market by storm. Software development is a process that does not stop, but with time makes a very comprehensive and powerful product that becomes more valuable, also with time. Obviously a balanced approach is also important, or you can end up with something that is more difficult and cumbersome to use!


Beechum: Now that I have used this product for a couple of longish stages, I have been thinking about a couple other things that might be worth taking a look at:

Sometimes its very hard/impossible to fit the shape of the road using just the three editable points and one fixed one that is allocated to each tulip. The ability to insert a fifth point would solve these situation and allow for more complex looking tulips. Not sure how hard this would be to do? Perhaps the way to do it is to edit the bottom part of the main route (from the dot up to the middle), by simply dragging the middle part of the tulip (top of the line circled in yellow below):


It would be great if the all the pictures that are dragged and dropped were defaulted to 80% of their current size, it would speed up the editing required in very cluttered tulips.

The option to choose km versus miles still shows miles in the left column (albeit in small writing), any chance of dropping that out?

Cheers!

Neil
DaveRMS is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 07:26 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014