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Old 10-15-2013, 04:17 PM   #1
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The $22k Joyride

In todays papers

OTTAWA — Police say a pair of Ottawa motorcyclists went on a reckless high-speed ride on a Quebec highway Saturday and filmed their actions, which helped officers hit them with 229 demerit points and $22,236 in fines.

“That's the highest we've ever had," Const. Martin Fournel said of the fines.

Officers arrested the two men, ages 29 and 26, almost right in front of the police station near Wakefield, Que., located north of Gatineau.

Police had received complaints about bikers making illegal passes.

Police said one of the bikers tried to hide a video camera, but officers seized it and watched its contents. The footage not only confirmed eyewitness accounts, police say, but helped investigators see several dozen other infractions from the same ride.
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Time to hide the Ghost HD cam the next time I ride ..

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Old 10-15-2013, 04:26 PM   #2
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Old 10-15-2013, 04:28 PM   #3
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officers hit them with 229 demerit points and $22,236 in fines.

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That's uncalled for.

I thought Oregon was bad when they act like you just raped their wife, kicked their dog and burned their house down just because you crossed some mythical threshold into triple digits... And they only make you pay $3200.00 with an automatic impound and six month suspension.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:18 PM   #4
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Oh my God! Illegal passes, they should get the death penalty! The scoundrels! May they die a slow death and rot in hell.

You can't let them get away with this, or next thing you know, this will lead to bigger things, like Lane-Splitting aghast!

You Canadians crack me up, and I thought Florida was bad, sheesh!
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:36 PM   #5
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Isn't the highest set speed limit in that area like, 100? (60 MPH)
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:46 PM   #6
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Stunt Riding problems????

Wonder if Quebec or anywhere in Canada have issues with packs of Idiots like in NY and St Louis? With this kind of deterrent I doubt it I think our Brothers in the North may be on to something.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:59 PM   #7
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Wonder if Quebec or anywhere in Canada have issues with packs of Idiots like in NY and St Louis? With this kind of deterrent I doubt it I think our Brothers in the North may be on to something.
I think the overzealous , Nazi cops need to stay in Canada , ours are bad enough. I'm not saying ours do their jobs well , but they're too misguided as it is. We don't need more laws , we need non-biased , uninfluenced , unopinionated cops willing to do their jobs honestly all of the time whether they feel like it or not.
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Old 10-15-2013, 06:02 PM   #8
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Wonder if Quebec or anywhere in Canada have issues with packs of Idiots like in NY and St Louis? With this kind of deterrent I doubt it I think our Brothers in the North may be on to something.
No we don't have those problems... and the 22k is from the duration of the video where the nuts broke dozens of infractions of various penalties and fines.

I think this is a good thing and 22k in fines is probably a pretty good deterrent.
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Old 10-15-2013, 06:10 PM   #9
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Old 10-15-2013, 06:11 PM   #10
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No we don't have those problems... and the 22k is from the duration of the video where the nuts broke dozens of infractions of various penalties and fines.

I think this is a good thing and 22k in fines is probably a pretty good deterrent.
I don't really think it's a good deterrent. People will lose their licenses because they can't pay the rediculous fines and STILL drive out of necessity.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:07 PM   #11
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I don't really think it's a good deterrent. People will lose their licenses because they can't pay the ridiculous fines and STILL drive out of necessity.

Buy a cheap bike like an old beater SV1000. If the cops chase you run like hell, you've got nothing to lose. If they catch you let them have the bike, then buy another and repeat. Forget paying the fines. It cost money to lock you up.

Here is a quote from a Dallas News article on a bill they are now trying to repeal here.

http://www.texastribune.org/2012/11/...alance-budget/



It turns out that the program’s most spectacular achievement is the mass revocation of driver’s licenses of the 1.3 million Texans who couldn’t or wouldn’t keep up with add-on payments amounting to thousands of dollars in some cases. In all, 60 percent of drivers have fallen into arrears on the surcharges, to the tune of a combined $1.7 billion past-due bill to the state.
Now they make up a new class of unlicensed and mostly uninsurable drivers. Turner reckons that many are breaking the law to drive, if that’s what it takes to hold down a job to pay off a surcharge. What a sad irony.
Gonzales points out that uninsurable drivers have pushed up the cost of insurance for the rest of us who pay a total $1 billion a year for protection from those without coverage.



What do we do now? Throw 1.3 million people in jail?
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:25 PM   #12
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Some beurocrat will decide they just aren't fining the perpetrators enough.
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:03 PM   #13
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Here in Florida we get fined over a thousand dollars for popping a stupid wheelie. If the tire comes off the ground you can hand over about $1300 if a cop wants to push it. They can also take the bike. I had a fellow firefighter pop a wheelie and a cop lit him up. He ran. I don't blame him. If the fine was a couple hundred bucks, it would be lesson learned. Pull over, take your lumps and move on. Nobody can afford that kind of fine. It is out of hand.

While I suspect the OP's example is for really reckless riding, there is no way those guys are going to be able to pay that. They should be punished, no doubt, but the punishment should fit the crime. This is too much.
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:06 PM   #14
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No we don't have those problems... and the 22k is from the duration of the video where the nuts broke dozens of infractions of various penalties and fines.

I think this is a good thing and 22k in fines is probably a pretty good deterrent.

So if they are speeding for say 100 km or so....do they only get 1 speeding ticket? Or do they get a speeding ticket every time they pass a speed limit sign?
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:54 PM   #15
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Here in Florida we get fined over a thousand dollars for popping a stupid wheelie. If the tire comes off the ground you can hand over about $1300 if a cop wants to push it. They can also take the bike. I had a fellow firefighter pop a wheelie and a cop lit him up. He ran. I don't blame him. If the fine was a couple hundred bucks, it would be lesson learned. Pull over, take your lumps and move on. Nobody can afford that kind of fine. It is out of hand.
Wheelies and triple digit speeds don't happen by mistake, motorcycles are a bad choice for those who lack self control.
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