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Old 10-16-2013, 12:42 AM   #16
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About a year ago, there was a bit of a similar case in my country. 2-3 idiots had taped their idiotic riding on the roads, and planned to make a DVD for sale. Then they gave a hint of this to some journalist, as they thought it would be a cool way to get some free advertisement for their project. Instead they got the police visit their homes, and their bikes, cameras, computers impounded, their assets freezed, and they were prosecuted.

Put simply: If you go on public roads, and you do illegal stuff there, and you videotape it all AND make it public, and even plan to make money by selling a product containing this illegal stuff, WHAT do you expect will happen next?

Its as if these asshats have not yet realized, that they are now over 18 years of age, and momma and papa will no longer be responsible for their stupidity, instead they are now themselves responsible.
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Old 10-16-2013, 01:38 AM   #17
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CNN - Caught at 100 mph -- now what?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayof...eeding.ticket/

From the CNN Article:

"Varying ticket penalties

Penalties vary across states and jurisdictions. In California, for example, a first offender likely will face a fine not exceeding $500, two points on a license and possible jail time. The infraction becomes a misdemeanor if the police can prove a driver was reckless. In Virginia it's a fine of up to $2,500 and mandatory jail time.

Some states like Florida and New York use a sliding scale for speeds up to 50 mph over the limit."

*** Note *** "Many including Oregon enforce mandatory license suspensions.

Reckless driving?

Whether an infraction becomes a reckless driving offense depends on road conditions, how you were driving, the officer serving your ticket and the state in which you received it. Factors include if you were seen making unsafe lane changes or had a passenger in your car (even more so if it's a child). Reckless driving is usually a misdemeanor criminal offense. In Florida, a third offense for driving 50 mph over the limit is a felony. In Virginia, driving above 85 mph is considered reckless.

The numbers

100 mph citations, case study: Oregon, 2006-2007. Source: Oregon.gov

• 79% of the cited drivers were male.

• 81% of the citations were issued to drivers on freeways, and 19% were issued on secondary state highways.

• The highest percentage age group for male drivers was 20-24 (34%) followed by age group 15-19 (21%).

• For all violators cited, 51% involved drivers ages 15-24.

• In 2005, troopers cited 464 people for driving 100 mph or faster Between 2000 and 2004, troopers cited more the 2,600 drivers."
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Old 10-16-2013, 01:56 AM   #18
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Is'nt this a bit OTT, nearly 23k fines for what is in fact traffic offences, I mean they've been caught bang to rights but lets keep things in perspective here, sounds like a great way to make money for the local council. We have seen similar things in the past with local councils lifting cars that where parked illegally like they where going out of fashion and demanding huge fee's for getting them back , only to find that people just stopped paying them as it was obvious that it was just a money making scheme, when it came time to go to court the judges just binned the cases and ordered that the practice was illegal.
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:19 AM   #19
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That's uncalled for.

I thought Oregon was bad when they act like you just raped their wife, kicked their dog and burned their house down just because you crossed some mythical threshold into triple digits... And they only make you pay $3200.00 with an automatic impound and six month suspension.
That is two weeks in jail in New Jersey, and I've watched the judge hand out three or four in a day.


...plus all of the fines and shit.
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Old 10-16-2013, 04:00 AM   #20
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I don't really think it's a good deterrent. People will lose their licenses because they can't pay the rediculous fines and STILL drive out of necessity.
Just what would you think would be a 'good deterrent'? A stern lecture? A wag of the forefinger?

Just because you can't pay the fine doesn't give you a pass. The court will often arrange for installments. If you can't do the time....and especially if you're stupid enough to hang yourself with a new rope.
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Old 10-16-2013, 04:31 AM   #21
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Here, they just shoot 'em. http://m.wmur.com/news/authorities-i...z/-/index.html
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:24 AM   #22
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state Rep. Lon Burnam, D-Fort Worth, who attempted to repeal the program in 2011, also say the program makes drivers pay twice for the same offense and amounts to double jeopardy.
This is the best reason of all to revoke....your are penalizing someone twice for the same infraction....
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:00 AM   #23
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I don't really think it's a good deterrent. People will lose their licenses because they can't pay the rediculous fines and STILL drive out of necessity.
Driving is a privilege, not a right. You don't own your license, it's the property of the state, and can be revoked at any time if you can't follow the very simple rules of the road. Such is the case as well for your vehicle registration documents.

Driving is not a necessity. I know people with epilepsy that can not drive, but still make it to work every day.
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:47 AM   #24
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It's all about the money. Locals put up red light cameras and told everyone it was for "safety". Even though these intersections were no more hazardous than any other. $200 to run a red light.

On the interstate a stretch of 5 miles is covered by speed radar of Highway Patrol, Sherriff's Deputy, and local cops all at the same time trying to out earn the others .
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:23 AM   #25
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Driving is a privilege, not a right. You don't own your license, it's the property of the state, and can be revoked at any time if you can't follow the very simple rules of the road. Such is the case as well for your vehicle registration documents.

Driving is not a necessity. I know people with epilepsy that can not drive, but still make it to work every day.
In Texas statutes for the driver license (521.001 6b) the definition for the term "License" for the chapter includes:
"the privilege of a person to operate a motor vehicle regardless of whether that person holds a driver license."

Essentially stating that the statutes acknowledge that non-commercial operation of a motor vehicle is considered okay, by definition, without a driver's license.

So, there is no actual law down here requiring drivers to have a license for non-commercial motor vehicle operation. Though the common belief is otherwise, and you won't get a straight answer from either the administrative or legislative branches. I've tried to get this clarified and been sent chasing my tail as they each sent me to the other for the answer. I eventually tried the judicial branch, but found the court had no jurisdiction in the matter and wouldn't hear the case. (I had cancelled and surrendered the state-issued license, then waited until I was ticketed for it and took it to court. The case was dismissed. I then re-applied for a license and carry one, going along to get along.)

This grand folly of research over several years led me to the conclusion that the federal constitution prohibits states from enacting laws that would impair the liberty of a citizen. So, it may be that there is no requirement for a license for "ordinary" use of the roads. I've seen reference to commercial use described as "extraordinary use" of the road, which the state can regulate, license, etc.

This may also explain, from a legal perspective, why insurance companies write motorcycle policies for owners who don't have motorcycle endorsements.
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:32 AM   #26
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That's uncalled for.
Plenty "called for". I don't believe for a second that these dudes went out to make a safety video about how to ride while complying with all traffic regulations. They went out for a high speed run and filmed it, thus preserving evidence of their infractions. What do you expect the cops to do, say "cool story bro", and tell ya what we'll only charge you for every 5th violation you took a movie of.

If the judge and prosecutor want to give them a break later, that is up to them. The cops were doing their job.
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:50 AM   #27
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The Socialist assholes who run Quebec make ownership of a motorcycle a financial burden, and that's before any citations are received. Ask any rider from that province what his license and insurance fees are.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:00 AM   #28
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It's all about the money. Locals put up red light cameras and told everyone it was for "safety". Even though these intersections were no more hazardous than any other. $200 to run a red light.

On the interstate a stretch of 5 miles is covered by speed radar of Highway Patrol, Sherriff's Deputy, and local cops all at the same time trying to out earn the others .
Do they push you through the red lights, too? There's an easy way to avoid that fine.
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Old 10-16-2013, 11:10 AM   #29
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Oh my God! Illegal passes, they should get the death penalty! The scoundrels! May they die a slow death and rot in hell.

You can't let them get away with this, or next thing you know, this will lead to bigger things, like Lane-Splitting aghast!

You Canadians crack me up, and I thought Florida was bad, sheesh!
You Texicans crack me up...
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Old 10-16-2013, 12:42 PM   #30
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I'd be interested in finding out how many riders have pulled a runner since these impound laws have come into effect. I know some who won't stop. I bet the numbers are up.
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