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Old 10-19-2013, 11:08 PM   #196
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Racing is such a boiling pot of dynamics , F1 and Motogp are constantly closing the window down on these dynamics and in turn dumbing it down. Today was a prime example of what reality can bring back..... the unknown ......a shake up.......an ADVENTURE.
Roll on fellas, moteigi next round.

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Old 10-19-2013, 11:12 PM   #197
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Old 10-19-2013, 11:14 PM   #198
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How so? I mean, if the team put out wrong information on the board, or if Marquez misunderstood it, there's no excuse.
Not making excuses for anybody. MM's team made the mistake, but the cause is really down to the tire situation, and Dorna making last minute rules with a stick in the dirt.
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Old 10-19-2013, 11:21 PM   #199
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There's no denying the tyre thing was an absolute fiasco. Even if the pit stops hadn't had such a massive impact on the championship.

Would be interesting to know, what exactly did MM´s pit board show, when he completed lap 9.
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Old 10-19-2013, 11:27 PM   #200
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Ok mm and or team made a mistake but why a disqualification.why not just a ride through?That was the penalty proposed for extra laps wasnt it?
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Old 10-19-2013, 11:31 PM   #201
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Not making excuses for anybody. MM's team made the mistake, but the cause is really down to the tire situation, and Dorna making last minute rules with a stick in the dirt.

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Old 10-19-2013, 11:35 PM   #202
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Ok mm and or team made a mistake but why a disqualification.why not just a ride through?That was the penalty proposed for extra laps wasnt it?
I agree , a harsh penalty ,but this would've been know at the beginning of the race as the team director would have recieved an ammendment and would had to have signed for it. his responsibilty to pass on the info to the guy with no ears and all right hand. the best team won.
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Old 10-19-2013, 11:46 PM   #203
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a total of 3 riders were actually DQ'd for the pit stop window thing. Crazy stuff.. but this will probably improve their basic math skills!
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Old 10-19-2013, 11:50 PM   #204
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HRC really tripped over their dicks this weekend; Pedrosa's engine mount falling out, dramatically, and Marquez's team being unable to count to 10. And they are headed to their home circuit. Interesting times. I bet someone will be on the receiving end of the wrath of Nakamoto-san.
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:18 AM   #205
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I heard an interview with Bautista that said that the soft compund worked good with his bike for almost 22 laps. Problem arised when they used hard and super-hard compound, that tend to slip more during accelerations, overheat and consume sooner.
Also Dovizioso said that there is a phenomenon of "blistering" after a certain number of laps that they don't know how to deal with (basically confirming what Bootlace already wrote).
Cue Garry McCoy.

Remember him, he used to slide it all day long and still run softer compound (or softest excluding qualifier) than any other rider. Others suffered with harder compounds. Theory was that when McCoy's rear tire was sliding, only the top part of the rubber layer got hot, not the carcass, which kept colder. This kept the tire intact as there was not that much stress to it. Others riding conventionally caused too much stress (equals heat) to carcass and the tire started acting loose, which caused more heat and more issues. Like a vicious cycle.
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:22 AM   #206
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Marquez had a "moment" just before he was supposed to pit. That probably unsettled him enough to forget pitting.
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:23 AM   #207
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Cue Garry McCoy.

Remember him, he used to slide it all day long and still run softer compound (or softest excluding qualifier) than any other rider. Others suffered with harder compounds. Theory was that when McCoy's rear tire was sliding, only the top part of the rubber layer got hot, not the carcass, which kept colder. This kept the tire intact as there was not that much stress to it. Others riding conventionally caused too much stress (equals heat) to carcass and the tire started acting loose, which caused more heat and more issues. Like a vicious cycle.

Yup, somewhere Garry is reading all of the hoopla about tires laughing.
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:28 AM   #208
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Marquez had a "moment" just before he was supposed to pit. That probably unsettled him enough to forget pitting.
That may have been it. His foot even came of the peg if I recall correctly.

Lorenzo's pace was also very strong from the beginning. Who needs energy drinks? 'Seagull, gives you wings.'
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:51 AM   #209
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Yeah, sorry guys, but he has a lap timer and counter on his dash. Rider is responsible for riding the bike, and counting to 10. Just admit that it is a dumb mistake that is incredibly easy to make when you're caught up in the moment. Nothing more or less than that.
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Old 10-20-2013, 02:25 AM   #210
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I'm speechless..
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"'The team made a mistake, understanding [Marquez] was able to complete ten laps and come back in before completing lap eleven, and the 'box' instruction on his pit board was therefore one lap late.”
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