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Old 10-25-2013, 10:52 AM   #25111
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:17 AM   #25112
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that's illegal no ?
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:29 AM   #25113
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wow I have been lied to, myth buster told me banana peels are"nt slippery

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Old 10-25-2013, 11:37 AM   #25114
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Firemen and EMS too, I've been a fireman for 10 years and it's amazing how oblivious people are to emergency personnel on the side of the road.
I was always taught by the old timers that "firemen" stoke locomotives, we put the damn things out. We're "firefighters". To which sentiment I agree completely.

Your point though, is well taken. But. far more coppers get killed on the side of the road than firefighters or paramedics. In Canada, it's by far the largest cause of police LODD.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:41 AM   #25115
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The helmet may look to big, but the only thing they do for youth size small is throw bigger pads inside. My daughters first helmet looked huge, but it fit her head.

The deal breaker is the dangling feet. Guy should have taped down some. 2x4 blocks to the pegs :-)

I also picked up a belt with handles for my daughter to hang on to. Much better than just trying to grab my jacket.

If that kid slips, he is screwed
Even if the helmet fit snugly, the weight and leverage of that helmet on that kid's neck would snap it like a twig.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:53 AM   #25116
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So you were never given a ticket quota?

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fonztheyeti,
You know of instances where LEOs where told to write tickets for revenue?

I was a LEO for nine years and was never told to write tickets to raise revenue.

However, I understood that I was suppose to enforced the law.
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:11 PM   #25117
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You know of instances where LEOs where told to write tickets for revenue?

I was a LEO for nine years and was never told to write tickets to raise revenue.

However, I understood that I was suppose to enforced the law.
sweet. yeah too many to list.
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:24 PM   #25118
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Shoulda' had a gremlin bell.......

I don't see no stinkin' bell under that bike, so the peel had free reign.

Probably discarded by a follower of Darla. "No you jackass, not a banana, a BANDANA"
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:29 PM   #25119
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There was a story 3 or 4 years ago when a high ranking muckity muck from VA, DID tell the LEO that they were to go out and write as many tickets as they could to raise revenue. They wrote something like 7000 tickets in a weekend. I will see if I can find the story

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http://www.businessinsider.com/virgi...ernment-2010-3

Virginia balanced the budget by reducing spending. Fines for tickets written by the State Police go to the Virginia Literary Fund that goes towards funding the public school system by law. So contrary to the tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist blog you linked to, Virginia did not write a bunch of tickets in March just to make their budget by June. Do they have targeted weekends where they saturate the roads for a high presence to control traffic? Yep. NHTSA has Federal grant money to offer local cops to help keep the highways safe, so they spend Fed money to do what they cannot afford to do otherwise. Do some small jurisdictions with so little tax revenue depend on ticket revenue? Yep. Those are in the minority. I had local riders accuse me of just being a revenuer for the county. So I looked it up. My county gets less than 1/3 of 1% of its' revenue from all court fines, not just traffic tickets, but all court fines. So they would not even notice if we wrote 30% fewer or more tickets. There is absolutely no push to write tickets for revenue. If you are working one of the NHTSA grants, they want you to write tickets to prove you are working, and not sleeping. But as far as those stat go, a warning and a cite are both stats. So 20 warning and 20 tickets both prove you are working and not fucking off at the coffee shop.


So no, most cops don't give a shit how much revenue comes from tickets as it does not affect us. We do care about how safe the roads are. We do care about how safe the neighborhoods are. We do care about how much crime is reduced. We do care about how well we are doing our job, because that is why we took this job. And no, I don't care that you probably don't believe anything I just typed.
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:54 PM   #25120
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So you were never given a ticket quota?
Management expects a certain amount of productivity otherwise you would have 10% of the people doing 90% of the work :)
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:19 PM   #25121
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Virginia balanced the budget by reducing spending. Fines for tickets written by the State Police go to the Virginia Literary Fund that goes towards funding the public school system by law. So contrary to the tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist blog you linked to, Virginia did not write a bunch of tickets in March just to make their budget by June. Do they have targeted weekends where they saturate the roads for a high presence to control traffic? Yep. NHTSA has Federal grant money to offer local cops to help keep the highways safe, so they spend Fed money to do what they cannot afford to do otherwise. Do some small jurisdictions with so little tax revenue depend on ticket revenue? Yep. Those are in the minority. I had local riders accuse me of just being a revenuer for the county. So I looked it up. My county gets less than 1/3 of 1% of its' revenue from all court fines, not just traffic tickets, but all court fines. So they would not even notice if we wrote 30% fewer or more tickets. There is absolutely no push to write tickets for revenue. If you are working one of the NHTSA grants, they want you to write tickets to prove you are working, and not sleeping. But as far as those stat go, a warning and a cite are both stats. So 20 warning and 20 tickets both prove you are working and not fucking off at the coffee shop.


So no, most cops don't give a shit how much revenue comes from tickets as it does not affect us. We do care about how safe the roads are. We do care about how safe the neighborhoods are. We do care about how much crime is reduced. We do care about how well we are doing our job, because that is why we took this job. And no, I don't care that you probably don't believe anything I just typed.
Now don't go spreading facts around, it just annoys those who wish not to know the truth!

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Old 10-25-2013, 01:23 PM   #25122
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Now don't go spreading facts around, it just annoys those who wish not to know the truth!

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Old 10-25-2013, 01:26 PM   #25123
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Shoulda' had a gremlin bell.......

I don't see no stinkin' bell under that bike, so the peel had free reign.

Probably discarded by a follower of Darla. "No you jackass, not a banana, a BANDANA"
Well done sir.

And may I add, "so he had to lay 'er down."
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:31 PM   #25124
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I was always taught by the old timers that "firemen" stoke locomotives, we put the damn things out. We're "firefighters". To which sentiment I agree completely.

Your point though, is well taken. But. far more coppers get killed on the side of the road than firefighters or paramedics. In Canada, it's by far the largest cause of police LODD.
Women firemen are caller firefighter and men are called firemen
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Old 10-25-2013, 04:09 PM   #25125
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I was always taught by the old timers that "firemen" stoke locomotives, we put the damn things out. We're "firefighters". To which sentiment I agree completely.

Your point though, is well taken. But. far more coppers get killed on the side of the road than firefighters or paramedics. In Canada, it's by far the largest cause of police LODD.
Definitely more cops then firefighters (not firemen) and EMS, but still sketchy either way. And cops don't like to wear reflective vests for some reason around here, specially the state troopers.
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