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Old 05-31-2013, 03:22 PM   #31
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I used a different product, SimCarbon 3D Carbon Fiber Vinyl film. It has air channels on the back to allow any outgassing to escape without bubbling. I got a 12" by 60" roll from amazon for 17 bucks.



It has a semi-flat finish, and actual texture,( the 3D bit of it's name), and it really looks like carbon fiber.



I haven't had any bubbling after 6 months, and It looks far better than the shiny black OEM stuff.
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Old 10-04-2013, 06:37 AM   #32
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I used a different product, SimCarbon 3D Carbon Fiber Vinyl film. It has air channels on the back to allow any outgassing to escape without bubbling. I got a 12" by 60" roll from amazon for 17 bucks.
I just found this thread after reviewing many of them about KTM's bubbled decals. The SimCarbon film used by AdvRonski is now only $9.99 from Amazon, and I just placed my order for a roll. Thanks for the lead!
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Old 10-25-2013, 03:42 PM   #33
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I just found this thread after reviewing many of them about KTM's bubbled decals. The SimCarbon film used by AdvRonski is now only $9.99 from Amazon, and I just placed my order for a roll. Thanks for the lead!
+1. Positioning the patterns carefully, a single roll was enough for two sets of tank decals. Easy/cheap enough to keep redoing if it does end up bubbling.



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Old 10-26-2013, 06:54 AM   #34
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I got a roll a wide ago not sure if its the same as what you guus are using but it is not real carbon fiber. Its just an imitation on plastic.

Is this stuff real carbon fiber?
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Old 10-26-2013, 08:14 AM   #35
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I got a roll a wide ago not sure if its the same as what you guus are using but it is not real carbon fiber. Its just an imitation on plastic.

Is this stuff real carbon fiber?
All of the sheet material will be imitation, assuming it has any flexibility to it.

There is some texture to this stuff however and it does look pretty convincing. 'Real' carbon fiber typically fades over time. My 950 has a selection of Carbon Performance cf parts on it; it's obvious which pieces are the oldest merely from a visual comparison. Some of vinyl sheet manufacturers are claiming that the sheets resist fading better than the real thing.

More importantly in the case of the 950 and its outgasing tanks, a quick Google search suggests that the (imitation) CF sheets are being produced in a breathable form to make the application easier (mainly when doing car wraps). The Simcarbon seemed pretty easy to work with, compared to other graphics kits, so hopefully it will remain bubble free in the long term.

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Old 10-27-2013, 09:18 AM   #36
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Thx...my experience with the sheet material has been not so good. I found it wears off. Granted I put some on the clutch cover and the frame where my boot rubbs off. On the tanks I expect them to last longer.

Did you remove the bubbled up stock stickers ? As far as I know there is a tough lauer of clear coat on the stickers.
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Old 10-27-2013, 02:23 PM   #37
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Thx...my experience with the sheet material has been not so good. I found it wears off. Granted I put some on the clutch cover and the frame where my boot rubbs off. On the tanks I expect them to last longer.

Did you remove the bubbled up stock stickers ? As far as I know there is a tough lauer of clear coat on the stickers.
Wear-wise, the fake CF sheets ought to be about as durable as the OEM decal, which is a vinyl sheet without any clear over it. As others have described, it can be picked/ripped off with your fingers, while using a hairdryer to soften up the decal/adhesive. Also, as previously noted (Orangecicle IIRC), 3M's adhesive remover works well to clear off the residual adhesive. It's available in aerosol form from Advance Autoparts for around $9. A small terry towel seems to be the most efficient implement for this step.

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Old 10-27-2013, 07:32 PM   #38
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Well, my OEM decals definitely had clear coat over them. I found it peeled off cleanly with the larger piece, but I had to score the edges of the smaller pieces with an xacto knife to get a clean break. After this year's riding season, I have no bubbles and no wear on these SimCarbon 3D decals.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:03 AM   #39
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Well, my OEM decals definitely had clear coat over them. I found it peeled off cleanly with the larger piece, but I had to score the edges of the smaller pieces with an xacto knife to get a clean break. After this year's riding season, I have no bubbles and no wear on these SimCarbon 3D decals.
Interesting. I didn't bother removing the smaller pieces and I think you're right in terms of the clear over those. Which model year is your 950? IIRC it's a silver bike, so an early model year? I was working with a 05.5. Good to hear that the decals are still holding up.

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