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Old 10-29-2013, 01:25 PM   #9856
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I've used it plenty for a number of applications. I don't know that it's any more rugged than the 76 but the display alone isn't even in the same game for sure.

What I miss are my x76/x96's. I wish they were still supported. It's still got a better display than those but there are plenty of other x76/x96 users that preferred them too...
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Old 10-29-2013, 01:28 PM   #9857
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I posted my thoughts as to Montana accuracy and the real world (p654, post 9804) and won't rehash it to death ........

Now that users of other models (78) are reporting similar GPS map behavior I believe this discussion warrants a thread of it's own.

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Old 10-29-2013, 01:51 PM   #9858
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....Now that users of other models (78) are reporting similar GPS map behavior I believe this discussion warrants a thread of it's own.

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Do you know where I can find those discussions? I haven't see them and wouldn't be surprised [anymore] though. If I can get some users of other units to gather data showing some similar behavior, I'd be more than happy to take the position error discussion to a "map heading & position accuracy problem" thread....
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Old 10-29-2013, 01:55 PM   #9859
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Now that users of other models (78) are reporting similar GPS map behavior I believe this discussion warrants a thread of it's own. Bruce
Agree, do it!

My gut feel is that 62/78/Montana all behave the same and very differfent than last generation units. I commented on this issue in the 76 vs 78 thread. A new thread may inform users of the other models of the issue.
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Old 10-29-2013, 02:17 PM   #9860
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My gut feel is that 62/78/Montana all behave the same and very different than last generation units. I commented on this issue in the 76 vs 78 thread. A new thread may inform users of the other models of the issue.
That's where I saw it and as a result has me questioning if other recent models also exhibit this issue, namely the 62 and the new Oregon 6XX. Also curious to see a report on the Montarra when available.

Doesn't make sense to continue this discussion at length here as it has already been documented and may have caused a major contributor to this thread (post 9781) to keep clear for now.

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Old 10-29-2013, 04:22 PM   #9861
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That's where I saw it and as a result has me questioning if other recent models also exhibit this issue, namely the 62 and the new Oregon 6XX. Also curious to see a report on the Montarra when available.

Doesn't make sense to continue this discussion at length here as it has already been documented and may have caused a major contributor to this thread (post 9781) to keep clear for now.

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Not to worry about me...no snow yet so I'm out riding. As for the stationary "filtering" that this device does/doesn't do, my map doesn't swing around as it seems other units do. These are just some of my tracks for the past 10mos and the Montana has done a fine job every mile...28K+ and counting.



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Old 10-29-2013, 05:11 PM   #9862
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Not to worry about me...no snow yet so I'm out riding.
Good so glad to hear that you found better things to do, I'm so used to seeing several posts a day from you in this thread! Personally with all you have contributed I thought the term used was out of line and was surprised the poster chose not to edit it or apologize.

As a very long time GPS user I do find Steve's results somewhat interesting but enough already. If he or someone else chooses to start a new thread on the subject of position accuracy and how the units handle deviation I will likely partake, but I will not be adding to the discussion here.

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Old 10-31-2013, 11:45 AM   #9863
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Has anybody replaced the digitizer on their Montana?

I'm out on vacation and the screen quit responding to inputs, then I noticed water under the outer screen. I pulled it apart and found a small crack in the plastic.
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Old 10-31-2013, 11:53 AM   #9864
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Has anybody replaced the digitizer on their Montana?

I'm out on vacation and the screen quit responding to inputs, then I noticed water under the outer screen. I pulled it apart and found a small crack in the plastic.
The only repair option I am aware of is to obtain a replacement unit from Garmin. Is yours still in warranty? Even if not, if you ask them nicely, and ask if yours is part of the early version touchscreen failure group, they may replace it for a very favorable price :)
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:55 PM   #9865
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Now that users of other models (78) are reporting similar GPS map behavior I believe this discussion warrants a thread of it's own.

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I agree, this has gone on long enough.

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Do you know where I can find those discussions? I haven't see them and wouldn't be surprised [anymore] though. If I can get some users of other units to gather data showing some similar behavior, I'd be more than happy to take the position error discussion to a "map heading & position accuracy problem" thread....
With all due respect....... Please start a new thread. If there are others are out there that share your interest they will join you in that thread.

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Doesn't make sense to continue this discussion at length here as it has already been documented and may have caused a major contributor to this thread (post 9781) to keep clear for now.

Bruce
Although this thread still has a lot of very helpful information and people willing to help new users, it has become corrupted to the point that if I was a new user who just came across this thread, I would probably look elsewhere after a few pages.

Thankfully I get email updates to look over to see if there is anything of interest. Without those emails I probably would have unsubscribed from this thread quite awhile ago.

Sorry for the rant. I usually keep my mouth shut but it finally got to me and I had to say something.

I'll go back to lurking now.

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Old 11-01-2013, 10:38 AM   #9866
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I agree, . I recently decided to buy the Montana. I have been using Garmin GPS since 97. And for the last 8 years 176 then 376 then 478. I knew at some point I needed to upgrade and coming here for my primary research I decided to give the Montana and BaseCamp a shot, and now 2 weeks in, I am very glad I did. Its a great GPS loaded with features and capabilities. Still not real fond of the touch screen but I am adapting.

The biggest and most worthwhile improvement over my stable of 376's is the Improved reciver, this thing locks in and holds fix forever, If nothing else the Montana is worth the uprade over 376 for this alone.

Regarding this thread. There is a TON of complaints here about the Montana, and many unwarranted. I focused on the positive, listened to the negative, and came to the conclusion the Montana was a worthy upgrade. However someone reading all the negative here could easily be swayed to disqualify the Montana, and purchase a lesser GPS, and never realize what all can actually be done with receiver as capable as the Montana. JMHO
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:47 AM   #9867
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I agree.....There is a TON of complaints here about the Montana, and many unwarranted.
Just out of curiosity, how does one go about determining which complaints are warranted and which are not?
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Old 11-01-2013, 11:16 AM   #9868
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Just out of curiosity, how does one go about determining which complaints are warranted and which are not?
Exactly my point, one could easily come away with thinking the Montana is more trouble than its worth.

For me, I decided many of the complaints were exaggerations and or user error. For me, it was the Correct Product analysis..I am very happy with the Montana, it does exactly what I was expecting no more no less.
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:28 PM   #9869
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Just out of curiosity, how does one go about determining which complaints are warranted and which are not?
The ones that you agree with are warranted and the others are not
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:54 PM   #9870
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There is a lot of good info in this thread just got to dig it out.

Someone with a lot of free time needs to make up an index.

There are some good links in the signatures of some inmates too.

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