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Old 10-31-2013, 06:25 AM   #1
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Motorcyclists are a plague

Here's a link to a photo-essay about the apparent plague of motorcycles in Venezuela.

The sparse text relates how Venezuela's infrastructure hasn't been touched since the 80s and traffic is a constant. But things got worse when cheap Chinese motorcycles hit the market a little while ago, then urban noise pollution got exponentially worse, and traffic fatalities have gone up. (The correlation seems a bit thin, to me.)

Why is it always our fault?

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Old 10-31-2013, 06:27 AM   #2
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Here's a link to a photo-essay about the apparent plague of motorcycles in Venezuela.

The sparse text relates how Venezuela's infrastructure hasn't been touched since the 80s and traffic is a constant. But things got worse when cheap Chinese motorcycles hit the market a little while ago, then urban noise pollution got exponentially worse, and traffic fatalities have gone up. (The correlation seems a bit thin, to me.)

Why is it always our fault?

Looks like the pedestrian is the problem here.

The motorcycles should have actually reduced congestion, and increased traffic flow, with lane splitting like they are doing.

No doubt the author is a cager!

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Old 10-31-2013, 06:41 AM   #3
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Looks like the pedestrian is the problem here.

The motorcycles should have actually reduced congestion, and increased traffic flow, with lane splitting like they are doing.

No doubt the author is a cager!

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The pedestrian was actually a Hollywood Dumb Stuntz club member who had dismounted to help a motorist...................
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:04 AM   #4
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Just to be clear we are talking about one of the last Banana Republics that apparently considered Hugo Chavez a hero, yet calls motorcycles a plague.....

All this means is someone in the top brass doesn't like motorcycles.
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:09 AM   #5
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The only plague I see: way too many cars..
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:48 AM   #6
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The author seems to imply that motorcycles have increased traffic,
as people who can't afford a car are now on the road with motorcycles,
cheap Chinese motorcycles.
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:47 AM   #7
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Here's a link to a photo-essay about the apparent plague of motorcycles in Venezuela.

The sparse text relates how Venezuela's infrastructure hasn't been touched since the 80s and traffic is a constant. But things got worse when cheap Chinese motorcycles hit the market a little while ago, then urban noise pollution got exponentially worse, and traffic fatalities have gone up. (The correlation seems a bit thin, to me.)

Why is it always our fault?


Venezuela as a country is a cluster-fuck. Hugo Chavez has made it so, and his replacement offers nothing as far as change.

Interesting to note in the picture, those two pedestrians are actually street vendors selling shite to car drivers. And they are worried about road fatalities????
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:50 AM   #8
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The author seems to imply that motorcycles have increased traffic,
as people who can't afford a car are now on the road with motorcycles,
cheap Chinese motorcycles.
The choice of motorcycle, or where it is made, is totally irrelevant.

The concept that more people are on the roads is likely just his impression because he sees all the bikes. But, that assumes that all these riders formerly stayed home all the time. A stupid and baseless assumption.

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Old 10-31-2013, 04:05 PM   #9
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Here is a better article about the issue.

http://www.voanews.com/content/reu-v...s/1780629.html

"They're a problem,'' Interior Minister Miguel Torres said, launching a strategy last month to control Venezuela's hundreds of thousands of bikers. "Not all of them, but there are lots who think they're in the old Wild West.''

Many behave atrociously, he said, riding on sidewalks, knocking off mirrors as they weave in and out of traffic, and hurling abuse whenever challenged. Some are involved in much more serious offenses, including abductions and drive-by shootings."

Sound familliar?

Reading further it seems like a case of good intentions (getting cheap transport available for the poor) overtaking good sense (licensure and registration of vehicles).

k-moe screwed with this post 10-31-2013 at 04:10 PM
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Old 10-31-2013, 06:12 PM   #10
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Old 10-31-2013, 06:39 PM   #11
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The choice of motorcycle, or where it is made, is totally irrelevant.

The concept that more people are on the roads is likely just his impression because he sees all the bikes. But, that assumes that all these riders formerly stayed home all the time. A stupid and baseless assumption.

Jim
They probably were not staying home, but were perhaps walking or using
public transportation until Chinese bikes became available.
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Old 10-31-2013, 06:55 PM   #12
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Venezuela's infrastructure hasn't been touched since the 80s and traffic is a constant.
Wow
the road in that picture
looks to be maintained
a lot better
then our roads in America.
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Old 11-01-2013, 03:53 PM   #13
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:14 AM   #14
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Half of those pics have nothing to do with motos being a plague.
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:54 AM   #15
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I have been in traffic in Venezuela, and it's a bit of a free for all. Literally door to door, I could easily have reached into the car next me. In dense traffic in Caracas, I saw a cycle rider ram into the back end of a cop on a bike. Cop looked back, asessed no damage, and rode away.

Two lane roads in VZ are more like three to five lanes, with the middle traffic playing constant rounds of "chicken". On a two lane, doing 60, we got passed by a F150 with the bed full of people, and four guys standing on the back bumper hanging onto the tailgate. Saw a late 70's Chrysler that was more suited to a demo derby car; no rear glass, been hit in the rear hard enough to fold the body up high enough to fully see the bottom of the fuel tank. Also saw a car being pushed down the road by another car, two guys sitting on the hood of the pusher, with their feet/shoes against the trunk lid of the pushee.

Guess when gas is only $0.19/gallon (back in 99) everybody had something to drive in VZ.
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