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Old 11-06-2013, 06:12 AM   #72001
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That sucks Matt! I assume you're gonna try to drill it out? Let me know if I can lend a hand.
Dude, I really do not know.

now im wondering why it broke?

here are some crappy photos.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=932571
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Old 11-06-2013, 06:19 AM   #72002
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when I had to drill out my busted motor mount bolts, I went to Grainger Tools and got me a couple of left twist drills..on one of the bolts, the drill did bite the busted bolt and backed it out..but on the other ones, they had to be time serted out..good luck!
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Old 11-06-2013, 06:24 AM   #72003
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when I had to drill out my busted motor mount bolts, I went to Grainger Tools and got me a couple of left twist drills..on one of the bolts, the drill did bite the busted bolt and backed it out..but on the other ones, they had to be time serted out..good luck!
this one is rusted/corroded in there, the torque spec is only 58 lbs on the headbolts, that one took well over 200 before snapping.

The biggest issue is that its stuck to the rocker assembly ABOVE the cylinder head.

I might have to cut the rocker assembly apart , just to get the head off, then ive got several inches of head bolt sticking up proud, that i can get a good purchase on.

But im destroying the rocker assembly to get there, assuming I can even do that without damaging the cylinder head.

Id buy a whole engine if i could find one.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:04 AM   #72004
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Dude, I really do not know.

now im wondering why it broke?

here are some crappy photos.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=932571

Holy begeezus you need to change the oil more often than once ever 100,000 miles.

Nah just bustin yer balls. Man I dunno, that looks like a tough one. I'm not sure if an ex-out would grab that sucker or not.

Soak that sucker a week with PB Blster and use some heat some too probably, and hope you can get a bite on it with something.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:20 AM   #72005
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he is in another time zone, closer to the sunrise than us
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:24 AM   #72006
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this one is rusted/corroded in there, the torque spec is only 58 lbs on the headbolts, that one took well over 200 before snapping.

The biggest issue is that its stuck to the rocker assembly ABOVE the cylinder head.

I might have to cut the rocker assembly apart , just to get the head off, then ive got several inches of head bolt sticking up proud, that i can get a good purchase on.

But im destroying the rocker assembly to get there, assuming I can even do that without damaging the cylinder head.

Id buy a whole engine if i could find one.
Kroil, let it penetrate and if it will still start get it warm. If it won't find an alternate heat source. Kroil is the Shiznits in power plants. We can run a 2 year cycle and kroil will get most things loose.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:31 AM   #72007
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yeah they didnt have kroil, so I got PB blaster
checked this morning, it really wasnt wicking 'down' the bolt.

the FPI flouro-pentrant "Zyglo" was the best penetrant I had ever seen, no access to it any more though.
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:15 AM   #72008
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yeah they didnt have kroil, so I got PB blaster
checked this morning, it really wasnt wicking 'down' the bolt.

the FPI flouro-pentrant "Zyglo" was the best penetrant I had ever seen, no access to it any more though.
Our shop guy exclusively uses "Yield" now...he swears by it. $14-15 per can, though.

I can find out where he gets it (it's German), if you want:
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:30 AM   #72009
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NIve never heard of that stuff Tim, im sure I can find a supplier for it, but

everything ive read, and folks ive talked to say that its likely corroded all the way down into the block, and nothing short of mechanical extraction will work.

gonna drill it out, and remove the head, exposing the several inches of head bolt shank stuck in the block
and get to it so I can heat it, and try and twist it out via the shank

i might have to weld a nut half way down it, and grind flats on the top, AND use a pipe wrench, to spread the load out over the length of the shank to try and not break it off further.

its just piss poor timing for me right now.
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Old 11-06-2013, 12:48 PM   #72010
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its just piss poor timing for me right now.
Is there a more convenient time? Maybe if you schedule your next break down? Just sayin
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:03 PM   #72011
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Is there a more convenient time? Maybe if you schedule your next break down? Just sayin
Yes, pretty much any of the other 50 something weekends of the year when im not camping 3 days of that week would suit me better.

as it is, I likely wont touch it again until sunday.

I am rethinking my decision to not have a 3rd car too, I hate to have one that sits most days, but I guess that might just be necessary to keep this crazy thing I call a family/household thing functioning.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:06 PM   #72012
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Yes, pretty much any of the other 50 something weekends of the year when im not camping 3 days of that week would suit me better.

as it is, I likely wont touch it again until sunday.

I am rethinking my decision to not have a 3rd car too, I hate to have one that sits most days, but I guess that might just be necessary to keep this crazy thing I call a family/household thing functioning.
Buy the kid a scooter
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:07 PM   #72013
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I dont want him in traffic just yet.

he can ride and has ridden my beemer, and he has been after me to register his cr230
I think he needs more time in a car before he is ready for that.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:08 PM   #72014
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