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Old 10-20-2013, 05:57 AM   #4201
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Old 10-21-2013, 07:07 AM   #4202
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Just in case some folks don't know, most of Clear Creek is closed (you should see the signs when you get there anyways but it would suck to ride down without knowing). The BLM ranger ticket for trespassing is $1,000 last time I heard.

There are a couple of county roads that go through and off to one side, but the cool places being posted are not all on the county roads. FWIW.
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Old 10-21-2013, 07:51 AM   #4203
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Just in case some folks don't know, most of Clear Creek is closed (you should see the signs when you get there anyways but it would suck to ride down without knowing). The BLM ranger ticket for trespassing is $1,000 last time I heard.

There are a couple of county roads that go through and off to one side, but the cool places being posted are not all on the county roads. FWIW.
Thanks for the reminder.

Also, for the reminder of how bad Kalifornistan sucks these days. Zero intelligent reason for that place to be closed. The love/hate relationship with this place is starting to really eat at me.
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Old 10-24-2013, 07:22 AM   #4204
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Thanks for the reminder.

Also, for the reminder of how bad Kalifornistan sucks these days. Zero intelligent reason for that place to be closed. The love/hate relationship with this place is starting to really eat at me.
I have a a friend who did asbestos law for a few years, and said there was no way the law was going to recognize the difference between asbestos fiber types (the type from the Clear Creek region is supposedly not deadly; not amolite fibers). Can o' worms is a polite way to characterize it.

The problem with that is places like Clear Creek get closed by the EPA (doing their job because of the law) and - much, much worse that that - asbestos sites that have amolite fibers don't get prioritized for cleanup, like some active schools... absolute bullshit is the only phrase that comes to my mind.

But CA State had nothing to do with it - in fact, San Benito County took control of their roads back from the BLM when they closed it, so that we can still go through some of it:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=25
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...t=83417&page=2

I'll be down there on Friday Nov. 8th, staying at Mercey Hot Springs on the 7th and maybe the 8th too.
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Old 10-24-2013, 08:29 AM   #4205
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I have a a friend who did asbestos law for a few years, and said there was no way the law was going to recognize the difference between asbestos fiber types (the type from the Clear Creek region is supposedly not deadly; not amolite fibers). Can o' worms is a polite way to characterize it.

The problem with that is places like Clear Creek get closed by the EPA (doing their job because of the law) and - much, much worse that that - asbestos sites that have amolite fibers don't get prioritized for cleanup, like some active schools... absolute bullshit is the only phrase that comes to my mind.

But CA State had nothing to do with it - in fact, San Benito County took control of their roads back from the BLM when they closed it, so that we can still go through some of it:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=25
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...t=83417&page=2

I'll be down there on Friday Nov. 8th, staying at Mercey Hot Springs on the 7th and maybe the 8th too.
Thanks for that. Since spouting off at the mouth, I've since seen some stats on where federal and BLM lands are by state. CA has a HUGE amount, which speaks to your explanation above. I've always hated the BLM as the only purpose I see them serving is to close access to land.

I might ride down there again at some point, but Baja beat the bike up a bit, and it's a long way on the 450, so it might be a while.
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:19 PM   #4206
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But CA State had nothing to do with it - in fact, San Benito County took control of their roads back from the BLM when they closed it, so that we can still go through some of it
Thanks for pointing this out, and longtallsally's subsequent posting as well. I think we are lucky in California to have so much federal land available; the downside is that the Feds can also close it down. And we can complain about Carnegie this or Hollister that, but how many states even have state OHV riding areas at all?

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Old 10-25-2013, 09:45 PM   #4207
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Clear Creek-Sunday 10/27/13

Anyone got a legal track for CC? Can you still get to New Idria? How much dirt accessible around and through now. Thinking about checking it out Sunday.
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Old 10-25-2013, 10:27 PM   #4208
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Anyone got a legal track for CC? Can you still get to New Idria? How much dirt accessible around and through now. Thinking about checking it out Sunday.
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Old 10-25-2013, 10:58 PM   #4209
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Anyone got a legal track for CC? Can you still get to New Idria? How much dirt accessible around and through now. Thinking about checking it out Sunday.
If you have the trail map this post will do:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...65#post1568865
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:42 PM   #4210
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Ramjet - PM me with your email address and I'll send you a gpx file for Clear Creek. Warning - I have ridden this route, but its not my track. Not sure how accurate it is. Looks pretty good, though.

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Old 11-06-2013, 07:17 PM   #4211
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ramjet - pm me with your email address and i'll send you a gpx file for clear creek. Warning - i have ridden this route, but its not my track. Not sure how accurate it is. Looks pretty good, though.

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Old 11-06-2013, 08:25 PM   #4212
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A short blog about a week on the east side of the sierras (White Mtn and Death Valley)
It's a good follow up to all the talk about road closed signs in CC. There were a ton of those signs in DV...
http://deathvalleydirt.blogspot.com
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:55 PM   #4213
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A short blog about a week on the east side of the sierras (White Mtn and Death Valley)
It's a good follow up to all the talk about road closed signs in CC. There were a ton of those signs in DV...
http://deathvalleydirt.blogspot.com
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cool - thanks for sharing!
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:23 AM   #4214
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A short blog about a week on the east side of the sierras (White Mtn and Death Valley)
It's a good follow up to all the talk about road closed signs in CC. There were a ton of those signs in DV...
http://deathvalleydirt.blogspot.com
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:50 AM   #4215
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A short blog about a week on the east side of the sierras (White Mtn and Death Valley)
It's a good follow up to all the talk about road closed signs in CC. There were a ton of those signs in DV...
http://deathvalleydirt.blogspot.com
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That was a great write up!
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