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Old 10-22-2013, 07:06 AM   #1441
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You need the stock rubber spacer (without steel sleeve) to keep the bearing from walking off.
some people cut spacers out of pvc pipe to locate aftermarket shocks ends from walking as well.
K thanks. Is there any way to use the kit, made for the oem bmw shock, on a hyperpro rear shock?
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:03 AM   #1442
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You need the stock 30mm long rubber and to cut two 10mm long PVC spacers to locate the 20 mm wide HyperPro shock in the 40 mm wide gap of the stock shock. Or you can cut one spacer 10 mm long and the other 40 mm long and eliminate the rubber.
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:05 AM   #1443
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the stock shock uses a bore that is 28 mm diameter x 40 mm long
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Old 10-22-2013, 12:18 PM   #1444
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That's a pity cause I recently had some hardened sleeves made that could have been usable for this application. The bolt is m12 right? Reasons for my questions is that I would like to make evrything ready before dismantling the shock bearings. Thanks.
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Old 10-22-2013, 01:14 PM   #1445
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K thanks. Is there any way to use the kit, made for the oem bmw shock, on a hyperpro rear shock?
My sleeve works for all shocks you need different bearings for the hyperpro vs stock shock.
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:11 PM   #1446
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replaced the plugs yesterday, so had a quick look at mine..

2012 with 45,000kms..



mount tabs look fine, dont think the bolt is bent... think the shock bush is a tad worn hence the slight twist in the shock..



replaced the spark plugs and put her all back together..

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Old 11-07-2013, 07:21 PM   #1447
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I just ordered my hardened rear shock bolt. How easy/difficult is it to get to the top shock bolt. I'm a new 800GS owner. Thanks.

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Old 11-08-2013, 02:30 AM   #1448
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I just ordered my hardened rear shock bolt. How easy/difficult is it to get to the top shock bolt. I'm a new 800GS owner. Thanks.
litteraly VERY easy. in less then 5 minutes you have it out there and that is with some time to drink beer. As long as you have a good wrench it should'nt be a problem since that bold is really tight/hard screwed in there.
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Old 11-08-2013, 05:14 AM   #1449
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litteraly VERY easy. in less then 5 minutes you have it out there and that is with some time to drink beer. As long as you have a good wrench it should'nt be a problem since that bold is really tight/hard screwed in there.
Thanks Loutre, good to know.
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:06 PM   #1450
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The F800 isn't the only BMW that suffers from this. The photo below is from a friend's 2007 R1200GSA that's currently in my garage. The lower bolt completely snapped (4th time) and the upper was very bent. They are only M10 (these were 12.9 grade). All bikes have their flaws.

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Old 11-16-2013, 12:29 AM   #1451
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The F800 isn't the only BMW that suffers from this. The photo below is from a friend's 2007 R1200GSA that's currently in my garage. The lower bolt completely snapped (4th time) and the upper was very bent. They are only M10 (these were 12.9 grade). All bikes have their flaws.
Do you end up building aux tanks for GSA's now?
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Old 11-16-2013, 02:17 PM   #1452
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Do you end up building aux tanks for GSA's now?
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:56 AM   #1453
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It's just such a pity that BMW really let themselves down so badly when designing this area. Upper shock bolt mounts have never been a problem on any other bike I've owned, including hammered MX & Enduro bikes, racing, vintage etc. In over 40+ years of riding / racing I have never seen this fault replicated. Their 1000RR and G450X etc shows they know how to build decent bikes when they try. But apparently they couldn't be bothered with the F8GS? Even leaving the mount unchanged for years despite feedback like this being easy to find. One has to wonder if they care? Or perhaps they figure most BMW ADV buyers are pussies who barely go off the black stuff? (probably true IMHO).

It would have been so easy to build a decent (i.e. normal) top mount into the frame and use a decent bolt instead of the spindly, overly long, little piece of junk.
12 mm for a bike that has to support 300+ kg all up, and not even a decent HT bolt at that. My dirt bikes use anything from 12 to 16 mm with proper HT bolts, and never have such a long unsupported bit of bolt a'la F8GS. Just plain bollocks IMHO.

I don't even jump this bike or even carry luggage most of the time, yet it bent during its first 2,000 km of mild use. Not even real ADV work by my usual standards...
The new HT bolt I fitted plus the "Best Rest" alloy bracing block seems to have stopped it for now, but come on... This should NEVER been required.

If I ever strip this bike to the frame and remove all the computers I'm seriously considering making a proper shock mount there.

BMW - you should be ashamed of yourselves. Call this an adventure bike? Add this mount flaw to the low spec (read cheap crap) suspension and I really wish I'd bought something decent, like a KTM or the new spec 660 Tenere. Sadly I am now too deep into this heap to sell it without losing a ton of $$. But if BMW think I'll be recommending their "Adventure" bikes, they'd be mistaken.
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Old 11-19-2013, 09:01 AM   #1454
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2013 F800GS Indy Kit ?

I think Indy said he is not building a kit for the 2013 F800GS. Is this still the story or does the kit work with the '13 model? I had one on my 2011 F800GS. Sorry if this has already been addressed.
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Old 11-19-2013, 09:22 AM   #1455
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Sorry guys but I have no more kits.
I made a batch of 1000 and they are all sold over the last 3 years.
I can't afford to make smaller batches and keep the costs affordable.
Inquires have dwindled to only 30 in the last 6 months so I can't see the risk in making another 1000 batch run.

My recommendation is to fall back to the Best Rest Products support bracket and new high grade bolt:

http://www.bestrestproducts.com/p-25...ort-wbolt.aspx

It is not the best solution but much better than the stock set up.

Thanks to all that use the Indy kit.
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