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Old 11-18-2013, 10:36 PM   #3796
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I have used giant loop and they are awesome but just not in the wet. I understand a lot of guys say they are great and they are but wp they are not. So I am going to install some zega pro's and see how they go. All my rides are long and in the outback and next year I see myself continuing on my trip from bali up to thailand etc. Also im going to re install my 17/21 wheels as I think the 18 seems to increase my 1st gear . Maybe its all in my head :)
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Old 11-18-2013, 10:58 PM   #3797
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I have used giant loop and they are awesome but just not in the wet. I understand a lot of guys say they are great and they are but wp they are not. So I am going to install some zega pro's and see how they go. All my rides are long and in the outback and next year I see myself continuing on my trip from bali up to thailand etc. Also im going to re install my 17/21 wheels as I think the 18 seems to increase my 1st gear . Maybe its all in my head :)
The 18" is a taller tire, albeit not by much. The final drive can be re-geared lower to a 3.05 final ratio I believe as I think stock is 2.92
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Old 11-18-2013, 11:16 PM   #3798
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I have used giant loop and they are awesome but just not in the wet. I understand a lot of guys say they are great and they are but wp they are not. So I am going to install some zega pro's and see how they go. All my rides are long and in the outback and next year I see myself continuing on my trip from bali up to thailand etc.
Waterproof soft panniers... http://www.adventure-spec.com/defaul...-panniers.html

I can see a set of these in my future...
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Old 11-18-2013, 11:18 PM   #3799
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Gear ratios
Gearbox transmission ratios 1.824 (31:17 teeth), Primary transmission ratio
2.277 (41:18 teeth), 1st gear
1.583 (38:24 teeth), 2nd gear
1.259 (34:27 teeth), 3rd gear
1.033 (31:30 teeth), 4th gear
0.903 (28:31 teeth), 5th gear
0.805 (29:36 teeth), 6th gear

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Rear wheel drive, type Shaft drive with bevel gears
Final drive gear ratio 2.82 : 1
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Old 11-19-2013, 03:17 AM   #3800
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Epic pictures OK L .

The only thing I can think is that there is a wire that has chaffed through (the clutch switch wire) and is making intermittent contact. These breakages often happen near the steering head and handlebars where there is alot of regular movement and the wires tend to be cable tied too tight. The clutch switch is prone to getting dirt etc stuck in it and is a very finicky little switch - have had mine out a few times to clean and adjust. If I recall it has a small spade connector - you should be able to get to it and disconnect and just bridge the contacts. I have done this permanently on my Husky 610. Of course if you bridge it and it still does it seems to point to broken wire further down the line.
Thank you for this. This looks like the best information so far. I'm due in Arequipa in two days and will start with your ideas and will report back. Very much appreciated.

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Old 11-19-2013, 03:25 AM   #3801
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Guys I was at the sydney motorcycle show and at the touratech stand and checked out the zega pro panniers. Does anyone have the touratech zega pro panniers on their hp2 ?
I've replied to PM from Mike.

But to answer this question publically, yes I use Zega Pros. The smallest size, 29 litres. The Touratech rack was asymmetrical and ugly so went for the Holan rack. It presses lightly against the Akra but not an issue.
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Old 11-19-2013, 05:22 AM   #3802
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Waterproof soft panniers... http://www.adventure-spec.com/defaul...-panniers.html

I can see a set of these in my future...
I have the Wolfman Expedition packs, mounted on the symmetric Holan racks. I've never had any water or dust infiltrate my luggage, and I've fallen on them more than once off road without any significant damage. Nice side benefit is that I can use the same racks for the Zegas or similar if I ever want to switch to hard cases. Like OKL said, the left Holan rack makes slight contact with my Remus exhaust, but no issue. It would not work with the clown-sized stock can.
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:20 AM   #3803
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The 18" is a taller tire, albeit not by much. The final drive can be re-geared lower to a 3.05 final ratio I believe as I think stock is 2.92
I run both the 17 and the 18 regularly and the change is noticeable, especially with a fresh treaded knobby on the 18 going to "street" knobby on the 17. Also, I beleive the final drive change option is 3:00:1, from 2.82:1 stock. That also does not seem like much on paper - but is a significant difference in practice.
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:27 PM   #3804
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I run both the 17 and the 18 regularly and the change is noticeable, especially with a fresh treaded knobby on the 18 going to "street" knobby on the 17. Also, I beleive the final drive change option is 3:00:1, from 2.82:1 stock. That also does not seem like much on paper - but is a significant difference in practice.
Wow how much would it cost? im imagining if they have to break down it down and put it back together plus the cost of part , it would cost plenty of $$.

I found in timor and indo that the clutch copped a hard time from slow going as feathering the clutch became the order of the day. Also a low 1st gear would allow u to use the engine breaking more.

So i reckon on my next big trip its back to my original wheels and keep the woodys for big open desert stuff.
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:08 PM   #3805
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Price, call MAX BMW

http://www.maxbmwmotorsport.com/hp2-enduro

http://www.maxbmwmotorsport.com/r120...drive-upgrade/
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:59 PM   #3806
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The 18" is a taller tire, albeit not by much. The final drive can be re-geared lower to a 3.05 final ratio I believe as I think stock is 2.92
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:20 PM   #3807
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im 52 , i reckon most hp2e owners are ave age 40's. youngest being late 20"s oldest being 65 ? What do you guys think? These days im thinking i would love a lower 1st gear and a lower bike as well, wether i can just get a softer spring for the rear shock is something im looking at.
Thanks for the tips gs mark re max bmw , i actually googled them and they do the job.
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Old 11-21-2013, 01:11 AM   #3808
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im 52 , i reckon most hp2e owners are ave age 40's. youngest being late 20"s oldest being 65 ? What do you guys think? These days im thinking i would love a lower 1st gear and a lower bike as well, wether i can just get a softer spring for the rear shock is something im looking at.
Thanks for the tips gs mark re max bmw , i actually googled them and they do the job.
56 here. One rtw owner from Isreal is about 38, one Swiss rtw owner is about 55. I know two other owners from Washington state who have ridden Africa on them (and much more, but rtw'd on different bikes) and who are both in their mid-to-late 50's. An owner in Georgia and can't guess his age. Don't know any other HP2 people. Other than you guys, haha.

Back to the pannier discussion of a couple of days ago I made a mistake when I said my Zega Pros were 29 litres. They're 31. The regular, non-Pro series smallest size is 29. I had the mid-sized non-Pros until I switched over and down-sized in Medellin. Another benefit of trimming enough gear to go down to the smallest size is that if your bars make it through a gap in traffic, or any maneuvering where dimensions are important, so will your bike (within 1/2 inch a side), which is actually very nice to know.


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Old 11-21-2013, 02:06 AM   #3809
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56 here. One rtw owner from Isreal is about 38, one Swiss rtw owner is about 55. I know two other owners from Washington state who have ridden Africa on them (and much more, but rtw'd on different bikes) and who are both in their mid-to-late 50's. An owner in Georgia and can't guess his age. Don't know any other HP2 people. Other than you guys, haha.

Back to the pannier discussion of a couple of days ago I made a mistake when I said my Zega Pros were 29 litres. They're 31. The regular, non-Pro series smallest size is 29. I had the mid-sized non-Pros until I switched over and down-sized in Medellin. Another benefit of trimming enough gear to go down to the smallest size is that if your bars make it through a gap in traffic, or any maneuvering where dimensions are important, so will your bike (within 1/2 inch a side), which is actually very nice to know.

yep i worked it out re 31's. and yep same here re age, owners. We have about 20 hp2e's in oz, with one brand new one for sale at the moment for 28,000aud
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Old 11-21-2013, 02:07 AM   #3810
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whats that gps u are using ,jeremy
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